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To: shrinkermd; Liz; Spiff; TommyDale; mkjessup; narses
When Rudy’s candidacy started to show legs, pundits and family values activists alike assumed that ignorant voters knew only his 9/11 video reel

But his 9/11 record is not what he claims.

His testimony before the 9/11 Commission was to be sequestered until after November 2008. But it has gotten out and raises a lot more questions about 9/11 Rudi.

YouTube - RUDY GIULIANI'S SECRET 9/11 TESTIMONY
19 posted on 10/28/2007 7:00:49 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush
A day or two ago there was an announcement that a letter was recieved by Arnold from Mexican seperatists claiming credit for starting the fires and included a video of them throwing molotov cocktails. It appears to have been revoved, can anybody give me a thread to it?? Of course you can, you're Freepers. Thanks.

I find it ironic that in Giuliani's speech at Regent University (as shown in the video at the link you provided), he goes after Bill Clinton for responding poorly or not at all to terrorist acts against us. While Rudy Giuliani himself responding disturbingly bad to the first terrorist act committed by a muslim terrorist while Giuliani was Mayor of NYC.

Here's the truth about the first terrorist attack in New York City during Giuliani's term as mayor. On 23 February 1997 an Islamic terrorist opened fire on the observation platform of the Empire State Building in New York City. This was a terrorist attack and is even listed as a "significant terrorist attack" on the U.S. State Department's website. How did Giuliani react to the first Islamic terrorist attack while he was mayor? He took the opportunity to immediately and openly politicize the event to advance his and the Democrats' agenda for national gun control and to praise Bill Clinton's gun control efforts.

Here's the relevant info and quotes:

U.S. State Department - Significant Terrorist Incidents 1961-2003

Empire State Building Sniper Attack, February 23, 1997: A Palestinian gunman opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland, and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."
Archives of Rudy Giuliani, Mayor's Message, 2 March 1997:
"Good morning. It has been a week since the terrible tragedy that happened last Sunday at the Empire State Building. And even as we grieve for the families and our hearts and prayers go out to them, perhaps we can use this senseless tragedy to re-energize the fight for gun control."

Archives of Rudy Giuliani, Major Addresses, Citizen's Crime Commission, 6 March 1997:
A couple of weeks ago, all New Yorkers and people throughout the world were appalled by the senseless and horrifying act of violence that occurred at the Empire State Building.

[snip]

Because of this transformation of perception, when this latest tragedy occurred, instead of having to defend New York City, we were able to focus national attention on the real problem, which is gun control. And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.

[snip]

Yesterday, President Clinton outlined his proposals for more stringent, federal gun licensing requirements. ... I applaud the President's proposals, and I will support them any way I can.

I only hope that he is right, and that Congress is finally ready to recognize that the vast majority of Americans want more gun control. It makes sense. It is time. And we can no longer let special interests dominate this vitally important issue.

[snip]

I know many people argue that keeping and bearing arms is federally guaranteed right as stated in the Second Amendment of the Constitution. But even in the Second Amendment, it refers to firearms in the context of a well regulated militia, and well regulated is what we're trying to accomplish.

Days after the terrorist attack, Giuliani wasn't assessing further Islamic terrorist threats or preparing the city against terrorist attack or publically denouncing Islamic terrorism. No, instead he was in a press conference at City Hall with a Democrat gun control nut (Rep. Carolyn McCarthy) by his side calling for national gun control.

This is the TRUTH that must be told about the February 1997 terrorist attack in New York City. This is how Giuliani deals with terrorist attacks. He blamed the guns, called for violating constitutional rights for EVERYONE, and wanted to take away our own individual defense against further terrorist attacks. More disturbing is that he would openly politicize a terrorist attack to advance a liberal agenda.

Even if Giuliani didn't have all of the other 100-ton social liberal and personal baggage he would carry as the GOP nominee for President, his reaction to this terrorist attack is more than enough reason for Republicans to seriously consider looking for a better candidate.


21 posted on 10/28/2007 7:19:39 AM PDT by Spiff (<------ Mitt Romney Supporter (Don't tase me, bro!) Go Mitt! www.mittromney.com)
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To: George W. Bush; raybbr; indylindy; calcowgirl; TommyDale; stephenjohnbanker
Frank Rich "........the political clout ritualistically ascribed to Mr. Perkins, James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Gary Bauer of American Values and their ilk is a sham.........."

Oh, F-r-r-r-a-a-n-n-k, you're having those wet dreams again. Keep in mind, Rich wrote this after a 4-martini lunch with the Rooty Tooters peppering him with agit-prop. MORAL OF THE STORY: Frank and Rooty's wishing will not make it so.

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Paramount reason to send Giuliani packing: he is the obedient lapdog of the Everything-For Us-Nothing-For-You types who are bent on transforming America into an irrational Mideast-type satrap.

Rooty and his neopukes are obsessed with religiously cleansing the Repub party and dumping so/cons off the party lifeboat. They would decimate our system of checks and balances and give liberals control of the entire US government.

A religiously-cleansed America, erased of The Founder's principles, would unleash an irrational, valueless mentality that has no relevance to American traditions.

The idea of Rooty's irrational, religiously cleansed mindset, degrading America into a Third World Mideast satellite, is repulsive.

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Rooty and his Tooters offend the sensibilities of patriotic religious Americans nurtured by a democracy built on freedom of religion. These irrational religious-haters are lying in wait to subjugate conservatives to second-class citizenship.

Giuliani worships at the Church of Whatever Works for Me. He doesn't believe in anything-----or rather----he believes in doing and saying anything that will get him elected.

The thought of an irrational, religiously cleansed mindset controlling the levers of our government is repellent.

24 posted on 10/28/2007 7:28:21 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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