Waste of time. I remember the 90s well enough to know Rudy was the devil incarnate to the left, second only to Newt. But now in 2007 the cranks have their feet wedged firmly in the mud, and their fingers stuck tightly in their ears. Their first commandment is “Thou shalt not say anything sensible about Giuliani”.
I’m not even particularly a Rudy for prez supporter. I can live with him as the nominee if that’s how it goes down. But the sheer childishness of the Rudy haters, the petulant foot stomping DO IT MY WAY OR ELSE churlishness turns me off more then I can describe. But really what more can you expect from people who’s idea of a clever political argument is to call him “Julie-Annie”.
In 1992 there was a radio show in the afternoons I’d listen to sometimes when I had to be on the road, a show syndicated out of Florida called “For the People” which was an Art Bell type format before I ever heard of Art Bell. Generally silly but more entertaining then local talk shows.
The host was a Ross Perot fan, and shortly before the election the show stopped talking about flying saucers and such, and began attacking of GH Bush. Traitor was one of the nicer names he and the callers threw at Bush. Days of this. I’ve often wondered how satisfied were those callers by the Clinton years.
The point is I really think the hard core Rudy haters are beyond reaching, but there aren’t enough of them that it will matter. In 1992 there was a Ross Perot who could appeal to ordinary concerned people as well as to the nutcases and fanatics. Ron Paul is no Ross Perot, nor is Pat Buchanan. The fringe without a big chunk of the regular voters won’t turn the election whether it’s Rudy or whoever else is the nominee.
I hope you're right. Keep in mind that the MSM will play up every division among conservatives to try to keep the GOP vote down. Every poster here who says they will vote third party will be portrayed as the voice of millions. They will do everything they can to keep us disunited. Will we let them?
You’re logic is desperately ailing. Just because (some) liberals passionately hated him doesn’t mean he was a conservative. Liberals also tend to hate Adolf Hitler, AIDS, and Pakistani taxi drivers who refuse to drive them to north of Central Park. Giuliani was anti-crime.
For someone who was so hated by liberals, perhaps you can explain why he received the endorsement of the Liberal Party? And no, that name isn’t some reference to European-style paleoliberalism; it refers to people who found the Democratic Party of the Roosevelt-Truman era to be to moderate, but weren’t willing to become Stalinists. THEY supported Giuliani.
In many respects, Giuliani is a hero for NYC. His crime prevention saved thousands of lives, and helped rebuild NY from the hellhole he inherited from Dinkins, Koch and Cuomo. But he is not, in any stretch of the immagination, a conservative.