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To: wideminded
And we're going to do that by bombing?

So why don't you just dispense with the Socratic incredulity and tell me straight out that you don't think the U.S. military can do it?

And no, I wasn't thinking "bombing". I was thinking MOAB's and daisy-cutters riding accurized MIRV buses from CONUS with CEP's on the order of meters, catching them in conclave, in the middle of the day, in mid-rant, at big political rallies, and at the office. Quds Force, too. Then arclighting their barracks at night. There are ways to accomplish all these things. Means are at hand.

Or is your opposition.....philosophical?

Are you aware that Iran has a constitutional government....?

I am aware of nothing of the sort. I am aware that they have a mullocracy, in which a cabal of vindictive, hateful old men order tremendous terror hits and assassinations all over the world, sometimes within and sometimes without Iranian government participation -- as in the Lockerbie bombing, which was the mullahs' doing, after we apologized and offered reparations for the Vincennes incident, all of which they accepted. (Did you know they tried to car-bomb the wife and family of the captain of the Vincennes here in the States, after they accepted reparations? The bomb malfunctioned, but it was intended to kill them.)

As in the bombings, organized by their dog Imad Mugniyeh, in Argentina and elsewhere, notably Beirut, aimed at Israel, world Jewry, and us, because they hate us and will not be shaken from their hatred nor reconciled nor appeased.

As in the war they sanctioned by the thug Nasrallah and his Hisbollah werewolves in Lebanon -- war by a non-governmental cabal, a were-government or shadow government (Hisbollah), against a sovereign state and non-Islamic, genuinely democratic society, Israel.

No, Iran's mullahs are not a constitutional government. They are a shadow terror regime, a Sect of Assassins that hides not in a mountain retreat, as in the Middle Ages, but behind the forms of government, in the shadows, in their own conclaves where they tell one another what they really think, and plan mass murder for us -- next time, using nuclear weapons.

Their government, while not universally popular, is tied up with their religion.

Precisely the problem. They are intolerant and religiously bigoted, and murderously so -- as in the days of the caliphs so much repined-for by the Sunni Salafists, who wouldn't even get out of bed on a day when they didn't feel up to killing 20,000 Hindus.

They would be even less likely than the Iraqis to greet us warmly if we invaded.

I don't give a rat's ass what they would be likely to "greet" or not. And I don't want to invade them. I just want to kill their shadow government, their hateful black-clad mullahs, stone cold dead in the middle of the night. Right now. No apologies, no justifications, no mewling pleas and arguments, no international "sanction regime" -- just national self-defense, acting on what we know about their regime and their leading personalities. Kill them all, decapitate their regime. Drive a five-foot-long wooden pale through its heart and bury it under a crossroads. Then let the survivors do as they will. That will be the "revolution" that will never occur otherwise.

If you are not willing to do that, then you are just waiting for your own citizens to die the same way. It's them or us. They fully intend that it be us that submit or die. That is where the matter rests. Get your head around it. We are way, way beyond talking to these guys, and they walked away from talking to us long ago. Now they're talking past us, because we are already dead to them, and they are transported by an ecstatic vision of our death and destruction. Recognize that.

34 posted on 10/29/2007 7:57:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Are you aware that Iran has a constitutional government....?

I am aware of nothing of the sort.

This is the structure of the Iranian government as defined in the 1979 Iranian constitution (according to Wikipedia). As you can see the system is rigged to preserve the status quo. Nevertheless, all the parts of the government, including the Supreme Leader, are ultimately answerable to elected representatives. BTW this chart does not mention that the Supreme Leader is selected by and can be dismissed by the Assembly of Experts.

As a country which promotes the virtues of democracy, it seems unlikely we are going to be bombing any elected bodies, no matter what are the inherent faults of their governmental system.


37 posted on 10/29/2007 11:14:30 PM PDT by wideminded
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