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Dutch Municipalities: Right-Wing more Serious than Muslim Radicalism
nisnews.nl ^ | 10/27/07 | nisnews.nl

Posted on 10/27/2007 5:15:17 PM PDT by Pikamax

Municipalities: Right-Wing more Serious than Muslim Radicalism

THE HAGUE, 27/10/07 - "In their own perception, municipalities have to contend with more right-wing radicalism than Islamic radicalism". This is the conclusion drawn in a study carried out for the Association of Netherlands Municipalities (VNG) and published in its VNG Magazine.

Seventy five municipalities took part in the study by the COT Institute for Safety, Security and Crisis Management. The municipalities combined reported 27 incidents concerning right-wing radicalism and 8 instances of Islamic radicalism. In view of the complexity of the problems, the researchers consider it understandable that many municipalities as yet have no clear insight into the matter.

It is the first time that a poll of this scale was held among Dutch municipalities on this issue, added VNG Magazine. The objective of the study was to gain insight into the need of municipalities for support in tackling polarisation and radicalisation. "It appears that municipalities particularly require advice on how to detect radicalism and information on projects to boost social cohesion and combat polarisation."

In VNG Magazine, the Mayor of Helmond, Fons Jacobs, said that in his municipality, right-wing radicalism is usually a reaction to "street terror" by groups of young immigrants. "When native Dutch people repeatedly fall victim to such groups, the readiness to react grows. Radicalisation from the right then starts to get underway".

In his town, Jacobs combats polarisation through a Social Cohesion Platform. Formerly called Muslim Platform, this body has police, schools, social workers and local Islamic organisations joining forces against polarisation. "After the 'Danish cartoon riots' for example, we issued a united statement appealing for respect for people's religious conviction".

Helmond has a mosque which Jacobs believes to be Salafistic, but he does "not want to be too quick to label". The mayor of Roermond, Henk van Beers, also has a mosque in his city that propagates this ultra orthodox current of Islam - the secret service AIVD has been warning against Salafism for some time - but he is less carefree. "Its lectures attract youth from Belgium and Germany. That makes you start to wonder. (...) Nothing is taking place that is criminal". But when the municipality organises bonding activities, "these are readily branded as haram (impure)" by the mosque.

But according to Rob Witte of the Forum Institute for Multicultural Development "far more municipalities have to contend with right-wing radicalisation than with Mohammed Bouyeris". He was thereby referring to the terrorist who cut the throat of Islam critic Theo van Gogh in Amsterdam in 2004. Witte: "Take a town like Uden for example, where an Islamic school was set alight after the murder of van Gogh".

In Winschoten, the municipality and Forum are carrying out a pilot project with a "withdrawal programme" for right-wing extremists. The objective is to ease the hangers-on away from the core group, "not to turn them into respectable Labour (PvdA) or Leftwing Green (GroenLinks) voters", in Witte's view. "If the project is a success, it could perhaps also be applied for Muslim radicals, although this group is guilty of fewer assaults and murders than right-wing radicals", VNG Magazine wrote.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: theychosepoorly

1 posted on 10/27/2007 5:15:18 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Submissive, suicidal liberals.


2 posted on 10/27/2007 5:19:09 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Pikamax

So in summary, Muslim street gangs are less of a threat than Muslim jihadists? Interesting line in the sand drawn there. [/s]


3 posted on 10/27/2007 5:19:45 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Renderofveils
Er, ignore that last post.

Meant to say "anti Muslim street gangs are MORE of a threat than Muslim jihadists."

Dunno what in the name of Southern Comfort got into me.
4 posted on 10/27/2007 5:21:56 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: facedown

Stupid, stupid socialists.


5 posted on 10/27/2007 5:23:51 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: Pikamax

Anyone who’s not a dedicated communist or has an opinion other than what is approved by the central committee is “right-wing” to these moronites.

The greatest sin possible in the world of the pomo suicidals is to have the ability to love your nation and your own culture.


6 posted on 10/27/2007 5:27:30 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Pikamax

(27 right wing incidents + 8 muslim incidents)/75 municipalities studied = .47 incidents per municipality.

Yep, Holland has a really severe problem there, ya betcha!

(Needless to say, the news report lacks a little something in data granularity. How many of these municipalities had no incidents of any kind? How many had a lot?)


7 posted on 10/27/2007 5:27:41 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: Pikamax
When you have prominent citizens slaughtered on your streets by the followers of allah, some people may get a bit touchy.
8 posted on 10/27/2007 5:33:45 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: darkangel82
They're opportunistic idiots. Just like the Mayor of Brussels, (Fat Freddy Video)
9 posted on 10/27/2007 5:52:56 PM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: darkangel82

It would seem that an investment in a prayer rug factory in Europe would pay off 100x in about 20 years or so...


10 posted on 10/27/2007 5:54:12 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on/Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Pikamax

Dutch Municipalities: Right-Wing more Serious Threat to Dutch Politicians and Bureaucrats than Muslim Radicalism


11 posted on 10/27/2007 6:03:06 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Pikamax

From the OP:

“In VNG Magazine, the Mayor of Helmond, Fons Jacobs, said that in his municipality, right-wing radicalism is usually a reaction to “street terror” by groups of young immigrants. “When native Dutch people repeatedly fall victim to such groups, the readiness to react grows. Radicalisation from the right then starts to get underway”.”

So the “groups of young immigrants” started it, and now they’re bitching about a reaction.


12 posted on 10/27/2007 6:03:59 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Pikamax

Lies based on lies. Muslim violence has to be extreme and obvious before they will even classify it as such. Otherwise they just call it “hooliganism” and blame it on person or persons unknown. Even if the targets are Jews, who report their attackers as screaming anti-Jewish epithets at them, punctuated with “Allah Akbar”, while wearing distinctive Muslim clothing, the authorities pretend the weren’t Muslims.

At worst, they use the euphemism that they are “Asians”, though 70% of “Asians” aren’t Muslims.

But if anyone fights back against Muslims, it is logged as a “right wing hate crime”, even though it was more properly “trying to not get killed.”


13 posted on 10/27/2007 6:08:14 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Popocatapetl

Shove your ideology down my throat! Don’t ask my opinion just shove it down my throat. Socialism, Communism, multiculturalism, Diversitism, Homosexualism and Idiotism. What other brain dead idea would you like to shove down my throat?
Hell, just saying I don’t like it is not good enough! Take a damn poll, if that don’t work to suit your damn insanity take another poll. One of these days the lunatics that are hell bent to destroy Western Civilization with have theirs and I hope I live to see it.


14 posted on 10/27/2007 6:31:08 PM PDT by Mojohemi (urie)
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To: Captain Rhino

This from the land of the flaming cars...it’s right there in their streets and still, they refuse to see it.


15 posted on 10/27/2007 7:02:25 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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