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A system that at lets you opt out of government health care and seek private care and treatment is reasonable.

No it isn't reasonable b/c costs, of health care, of education, of anything, will skyrocket and have skyrocket once the government "helps". So the only people able to fully afford college, especially private college, are the truly rich...thanks to government subsidies....the same will happen to health care (we have Medicaid now which is a sample of what you are talking about) if the government gets any more involved. Government "help", regulations, and involvement leads to high prices and poor access.

The end game for any one who wants universal health care IS to fully socialize medicine and have government gain control of 1/6 of the US economy. When prices go up then less people are able to opt out of government coverage. There is a tipping point: as more people pile onto to government care, prices increase so more have to pile on and pretty soon only the rich can opt out.

If the Democrat-Scocialist party were really about choice and opportunity then the last thing they would want is to grow government....of course choice and opportunity are not what Marxists are about.

[tips up]

But we already have government run health care in this country.

Medicare, Medicaid and employer provided (and deductible) insurance. FDA and CMS dictating treatment options.

I think we are way beyond the tipping point.