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Poll: Romney grows lead in NH
The Boston Globe ^ | 26 October 2007 | James Pindell

Posted on 10/26/2007 4:09:37 PM PDT by Spiff

Poll: Romney grows lead in NH

A new poll of New Hampshire Republicans shows Mitt Romney is gaining ground on his Republican rivals.

A Rasmussen Poll released today shows Romney grew his lead from 3 percentage points to 9 percentage points in a month over his nearest opponent, Rudy Giuliani.

Romney now has 28 percent support compared to Giuliani with 19 percent and John McCain with 16 percent. Mike Huckabee creeps into double digits with 10 points and Fred Thompson lags with 6 percent.


(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; mittromney; nh2008; romney
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To: LibLieSlayer

“How do you feel about Mitt embracing the AWB (assault weapons ban)? If you believe in the Second Amendment then you cannot possibly support this man.”

I believe in the Second Amendment and so does Mitt Romney.


41 posted on 10/27/2007 2:41:40 PM PDT by WOSG (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: WOSG
The Second amendment includes AR-15's and other sporting arms built around military framework. He has been quoted by Brit Hume during an AllStar session, saying that he would sign an AWB. That is not supporting the Second Amendment. Perhaps some real journalist will get a statement from him in an interview. His remark was in response to biden’s new gun control bill.

LLS

42 posted on 10/27/2007 2:47:07 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: WOSG
I believe in the Second Amendment and so does Mitt Romney.

Gosh. You're pretty careless about who you join your credibility to on such an important matter of God-given unalienable rights.

Romney signs off on permanent assault weapons ban

“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

- Mitt Romney, July 08, 2004

43 posted on 10/27/2007 2:52:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Romney admitted that he supports a federal “assault” weapons ban in one of the recent presidential debates. Heard him say it with my own ears.


44 posted on 10/27/2007 2:53:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“BTW, you are the fifth person in two days that has used that talking point... verbatim.”

Well, look at it this way.
You are right about Dole. He was a war hero, a good man, a good politician, and except for being “tax collector for the welfare state”, generally good for conservatives.

But it’s true he ran a lousy 1996 campaign. It’s because he really wasnt the energetic, sharp-elbowed and articulate kind of gabber who could keep up with Clinton.

We’ve been running inarticulate mumblers since the days of Reagan. Bush41 and Bush43 have various syntactical ‘issues’, and Bob Dole was as dry as Kansas in July.

The Bush’s got lucky, running against 2 massachusetts boobs on the Democratic side and, well, Al Gore.

If we want to beat Hillary we will need an energetic scrapper who is willing to tell the American people what principles he stands for, why it is better than Hillary’s agenda, and whats right and whats wrong. And do it in a way that doesnt lead to foot-n-mouth disease.

From the Fred Barnes article:
As for Thompson, the focus groups of Republicans liked him “but they don’t see the passion,” Luntz says. “In the end, Republicans won’t vote for a laid back candidate.”

... If Fred shows the passion and shows he can run better than Dole, he’ll pick up support.


45 posted on 10/27/2007 2:59:51 PM PDT by WOSG (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: EternalVigilance
Thank you... The Second Amendment covers my right to own an AR15 or to own a Barrett 82A1 50 Caliber assault weapon... I could even own a fully auto model if I want to pay the tax and pass the FBI and ATF inquiries. mitt, by embracing an AWB, shows that he is indeed an advocate for gun control. I will not vote for a man that tramples on such a fundamental right... a RIGHT that the Founders felt so important that they were compelled to put it right after the Freedom of Speech and Assembly.

LLS

46 posted on 10/27/2007 3:03:38 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
So let me get this straight, Bob Dole is a better man than Rootie or Mitt, so I can infer that you would have supported Bob Dole over Rootie or Mitt in the nomination. Hmmm. We already know how that rodeo ended. That was a rodeo you have been in before. So you go to rodeos with the goal of being ideologically pure even if your ox gets Al Gored.

Maybe on election day you should to a real rodeo and let your bull do some jumping there. Leave the Republican nomination process to the voters who actually want to win.

47 posted on 10/27/2007 3:06:20 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Speaking of credibility, a few facts to add about this NRA-supported bill that Romney signed, that show that the bill he signed was *not* an assault weapons ban (Mass. had that since 1998), but a package of reforms relating to it, that were helpful to gun owners and their rights ...

http://www.nraila.org//Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=1149
“Representing the greatest set of firearm law reforms since the passage of the Commonwealth`s worst in the nation gun laws, S.2367 is a breath of fresh air for law abiding gun owners. Governor Romney is expected to sign the bill into law later this week.

While not perfect by any means, this bill represents a step forward for gun owners in Massachusetts. “

See also:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~unmarkedpackage/#guns

Opponents of gun control and critics of Governor Romney point to the fact that he signed firearms legislation in July, 2004 that included a ban of assault weapons in Massachusetts (S.2367). However, the bill only reaffirmed an existing Massachusetts state ban on assault weapons that was enacted as part of sweeping gun control laws passed in Massachusetts in 1998, five years before Romney took office, and didn’t ban any additional guns. The state ban of assault weapons enacted in 1998 was not due to disappear, nor would it have become invalid with the sunset of the federal ban in September, 2004.
(Massachusetts - Firearms Reform Bill Sent to the Governor`s Desk, National Rifle Association - Institute for Legislative Action, June 29, 2004)

The firearms reform bill signed by Governor Romney in 2004 had the endorsement of the NRA (a MUST READ), the Gun Owners’ Action League, law enforcement and Massachusetts gun owners. The bill added several measures these groups favored, including a lengthening of the terms of firearm identification cards and licenses to carry, namely;

1) Extending the term of a firearm identification card and a license to carry firearms from four years to six years,
2) Granting a 90-day grace period for holders of firearm identification cards and licenses to carry who have applied for renewal, and
3) Creating a seven-member Firearm License Review Board to review firearm license applications that have been denied.

“This is truly a great day for Massachusetts’ sportsmen and women. These reforms correct some serious mistakes that were made during the gun debate in 1998, when many of our state’s gun owners were stripped of their long-standing rights to own firearms.”
(MA State Senator Stephen M. Brewer (D), July 1, 2004)

“I want to congratulate everyone that has worked so hard on this issue. Because of their dedication, we are here today to sign into law this consensus piece of legislation. This change will go a long way toward fixing the flaws created by the 1998 law. Another key piece to this legislation addresses those citizens who have applied for renewals. If the government does not process their renewal in a timely fashion, those citizens won’t be put at risk because of the 90 day grace period that is being adopted today.”
(MA State Representative George N. Peterson, Jr. (R), July 1, 2004)

“There are a lot of good things in the bill,” said Jim Wallace, legislative director of the Gun Owners’ Action League, the state’s leading pro-gun group. “In all, the bill represents a healing process, or the beginning of the healing process, between lawful gun owners and the Massachusetts Legislature.”
(State moves on assault weapons ban, Boston Globe, June 24, 2004)


48 posted on 10/27/2007 3:10:33 PM PDT by WOSG (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The AWB was passed in *1998* in Massachusetts, and not by Mitt Romney.

The NRA supported the bil that Romney signed, and here is an article correcting the record on it:
http://www.nraila.org//Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=1149
“Representing the greatest set of firearm law reforms since the passage of the Commonwealth`s worst in the nation gun laws, S.2367 is a breath of fresh air for law abiding gun owners. Governor Romney is expected to sign the bill into law later this week.

While not perfect by any means, this bill represents a step forward for gun owners in Massachusetts.”

“Myth: Some headlines claimed that the legislature voted to expand the ban on the sale of the same 19 guns that the federal government has banned.

Fact: The guns are already banned in Massachusetts . The legislature only voted to clarify the definition of so-called “assault weapons,” but made no changes to the number of guns included.

Myth: The gun ban was extended.

Fact: Our state`s gun ban was not due to disappear, nor will it become invalid if the federal ban sunsets in September.

Myth: The legislature somehow “won over” gun-rights supporters by including reforms.

Fact: NRA and Gun owners` Action League (GOAL) had made it very clear to the legislature that we would not give up any ground. NRA and GOAL supported this bill because it did not ban any guns, and because it made much-needed reforms. “


49 posted on 10/27/2007 3:14:12 PM PDT by WOSG (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: WOSG
“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.” - Mitt Romney

What part of that do you not understand?

50 posted on 10/27/2007 3:16:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: WOSG
Fred Barnes is a beltway rino liberal... he is a good man, but I do not go to Fred, Mort or Charles Krauthammer for Presidential Candidate musings. They both openly embrace rootie. Mort has his face buried in the beast’s backside. DC distorts one’s ability to read the public... can’t get past the filters in DC if you stay there too long.

rootie and mitt both are for one form of gun control or the other... The Second Amendment is far more than hunting rights ala rootie... then there is the abortion issue and rootie’s love of gay love. No, this election is about more than an Elephant winning... it is about the direction that our country is going to take for the next 50 years... I can’t sail where I want to go by using the mitt or rootie compass/gps instruments. I am not alone... I sail with an Armada of millions!

LLS

51 posted on 10/27/2007 3:17:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Remember the first rule of Romney supporters: It's always somebody else's fault.

There are other rules, but that one always applies.

52 posted on 10/27/2007 3:18:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

What part of “The AWB was passed in 1998, and this bill was a reform to *soften* the impact and *fix* things so it was better for gun owners, which the NRA supported” ... do YOU not understand?

As Governor, every gun bill he signed was NRA supported or sponsored. He supported continuing an AWB that was already in place and which in Massachusetts was not going away anyway.

The firearms reform bill signed in 2004 prohibited the sale of the same weapons in Massachusetts banned in the 1998 legislation but loosened other restrictions imposed by the 1998 gun bill. Therefore, after Governor Romney signed the gun bill in 2004, gun owners in Massachusetts had fewer restrictions on gun ownership than at any time since 1998.

Mitt Romney has said: “Americans should have the right to own and possess firearms as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution. I’m proud to be among the many decent, law-abiding men and women who safely use firearms.”

Craig Sandler, former Director of General Operations of the National Rifle Association and former Nashua Police Chief, endorsed Governor Mitt Romney for President. In endorsing Governor Romney, Craig Sandler said, “Throughout his career in both the public and private sectors, Mitt Romney has demonstrated exceptional leadership ability, integrity, and commitment to principle. As a New Hampshire resident, former law enforcement officer, and avid sportsman, I am supporting Governor Romney because he is the candidate who will protect our Constitutional rights and strengthen our nation.”

The NRA myth/fact on the bill:
http://www.nraila.org//Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=1149

“Myth: Some headlines claimed that the legislature voted to expand the ban on the sale of the same 19 guns that the federal government has banned.

Fact: The guns are already banned in Massachusetts . The legislature only voted to clarify the definition of so-called “assault weapons,” but made no changes to the number of guns included.

Myth: The gun ban was extended.

Fact: Our state`s gun ban was not due to disappear, nor will it become invalid if the federal ban sunsets in September.

Myth: The legislature somehow “won over” gun-rights supporters by including reforms.

Fact: NRA and Gun owners` Action League (GOAL) had made it very clear to the legislature that we would not give up any ground. NRA and GOAL supported this bill because it did not ban any guns, and because it made much-needed reforms.

Myth: Those legislators that wanted to expand the semi-auto gun ban claimed that they “spearheaded” S.2367. “


53 posted on 10/27/2007 3:27:12 PM PDT by WOSG (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: WOSG
When he supported the Brady Bill, Romney said, "That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA. I don't line up with the NRA."
54 posted on 10/27/2007 3:31:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: WOSG
In a 2002 debate during Romney's campaign for governor of Massachusetts, Romney said:

"We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them. I won't chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety."

55 posted on 10/27/2007 3:33:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: WOSG

Romney, in one of this year’s presidential debates, said that he supports a federal “assault” weapons ban.

Do you agree with him?


56 posted on 10/27/2007 3:35:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Romney on the Brady bill: “Today we don’t have the Brady bill because we have instantaneous background checks. That’s no longer a operative or needed measure.”


57 posted on 10/27/2007 3:35:35 PM PDT by WOSG (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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To: WOSG

Sorry. Romney has a thirty-five year public record we can look at, going back to his self-admitted support for abortion-on-demand since 1970 (before Roe), when his mother ran for the Senate.

Nothing he can say now will change that record. He has no credibility. None. Neither does anyone who is now trying to empower him and his lying. All they’re doing is assuring that they will go down with him as more and more people discover the truth.


58 posted on 10/27/2007 3:40:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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To: mission9
DO NOT attempt to lecture me on being a “real” Republican. I have walked the streets and attended Conventions and worked my fingers to the bone for Conservatism... I have given probably $50,000 to Republican and Conservative groups over the last decade... I supported Bush both times for the full Federal Limit... I supported the SBVFT with $1500.00...I gave $500.00 to oust Senator Abscam murtha... I gave $500.00 to Katherine Harris... I gave to the Florida 2000 election war... I supported Bobby Jindal... I support Haley Barbour... I support as many Conservative candidates as I can afford... as well as the RNC (since mel left) and Senate and House reelection committees. I even have a bulletin board in one of my showrooms that is nothing but Republican truth versus dim lies.

Everyone that touches my daily life is educated to the truth. I support Adopt a Platoon... Tommy Frank's group... Oliver North and Hannity’s group... the VFW... The American Legion... and both EM Clubs at our local AFB and Naval Base. I collect for Toys for Tots and have met more homecoming events for our Heroes than I can remember. I waved the flag for our boys as they loaded planes going to Afghanistan and Iraq... I offer discounts to Military personnel too. I think I am an excellent steward of what Republicanism is all about... to embrace shutting someone like me out... well your judgment is lacking in more than candidate choices.

LLS

59 posted on 10/27/2007 3:42:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: WOSG
“Today we don’t have the Brady bill because we have instantaneous background checks. That’s no longer a operative or needed measure.”

You do realize that implicit in that quote is Romney's belief that the Brady Bill was an "operative and needed measure"? Right? What a weasel this guy is. In fact, he defines weaselly.

60 posted on 10/27/2007 3:42:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like this, who needs Democrats?)
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