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As One Who Stood Against Horowitz--Outside Group Stifles Horowitz Speech
National Project to Defend Dissent & Critical Thinking in Academia ^ | 10-26-07

Posted on 10/26/2007 8:12:47 AM PDT by SJackson

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As One Who Stood Against Horowitz

As a current Emory student who stood with my back turned during Horowitz's speech, I would like to respond to those who have called my actions 'disgraceful.' I made the choice to stand silently while he spoke; however, I do not condemn those who yelled out. While Horowitz claims he is willing to engage in free and open debate with those who disagree with his views, we arrived to the event Wednesday night to a few stacks of index cards with instructions to write our questions down. I believe that it was this situation that led many to shout out, feeling their voices would not be heard otherwise. Along these lines, I would point out that when disrupted by the audience Horowitz chose to actively agitate the crowd. Had he responded that he would be willing to engage in debate after the speech, there would have been a much better chance that the disruption would have calmed. Instead, he resorted to name-calling.

Leaving the building, a member of the Emory College Republicans told me that Horowitz's security detail made the decision to end the speech. Later, they wrote on his website that he had to leave under 'tight security.' Anyone in attendance knows that there was no time in which Horowitz was in any type of physical danger. At this point, as much as I hate to…and I really hate to, I have to give a bit of credit to Ann Coulter. Another speaker for "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week," she has encountered just as much, if not more, disruption at her events and she has yet to flee the stage.

Let me be clear: Horowitz chose to end this event. He was never under any physical threat and although there were many disruptions by people shouting out, it quickly quieted down each time. Crying on his blog that the 'fascists' broke up the event, he chose to run away rather than face a determined opposition. When did protest become a fascist activity?! Later in his blog entry just after the event Horowitz writes, "As I have said many times, there should be zero tolerance for disrupters at campus events, and that means a sufficient police presence to eject the barbarians when they enter the gates." This is the Horowitz brand of "academic freedom," pre-emptive police action against protestors. Is that what you want for our campus? It has been said that this is an embarrassing event for Emory. Apathy and complicity are embarrassing. I believe that it is much more dangerous letting hate and half truths go unchallenged. You can disagree with me on that, but let's realize the opportunity we have to debate. This can be a positive event if it sparks real dialogue and forces people to engage with issues of race, discrimination, and freedom.

During the confusion after Horowitz initially left the stage a man sitting beside me asked, "Who raised you people?" Two people who voted for Bush in the last election raised me. Two Christians raised me. Two well educated and well respected individuals raised me. Most importantly, my parents raised me to stand up when I see hate and wrong in the world. They raised me to protest injustice. So I stood. Call me a fascist; call me a barbarian; arrest me. I will continue to stand.




Report on David Horowitz Speaking Event at Emory University October 24th

David Horowitz stopped his own speech mid-way through his event at Emory University, and in typical fashion is claiming to be the victim of the “fascist left.” The headline on IncorrectU.com is already screaming "Leftists Force Horowitz from Stage "Shut Down Free Speech at Emory!!!" Let's be honest: he walked off the stage himself and decided not to return, due to the overwhelming opposition being expressed in the auditorium.

Tuesday's edition of the Emory Wheel published a half-page ad announcing Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week and inviting the public to attend David Horowitz's speech Wednesday night. In a previous edition of the Wheel, College Republicans stated that they hadn't invited Horowitz to speak at Emory, but he had actually invited himself.

When people arrived at the auditorium, there were flyers and orange armbands being passed out, but many people had already gotten flyers earlier in the week on campus and were already wearing orange. Some people also wore green based on the Facebook campaign to show solidarity with Muslims that day. The College Republicans had a table at the entrance and were informing people that if they wanted to ask questions, they were to write them down on index cards and turn them in - that people would not be allowed to directly pose questions after the speech.

The lecture hall was filled with at least 200 people, about 80% of whom were in opposition to Horowitz. Most were wearing orange armbands, creating a visible presence of opposition in the room. A member of Veterans for Peace had 2 large posters with pictures of Iraqi children killed by the U.S. war and occupation. A couple of other people had posters, one saying "Dissent Free Zone, Brought to You by David Horowitz," and another with pictures from Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo with the caption, "Islamo-Fascism??" The crowd was a mix of mostly undergraduate and graduate students from Emory with some from other colleges, faculty, political activists, Black Muslims from a local Mosque, and the general public. There was a large presence of Muslim students.

When Horowitz came onto the stage, he was met with a combination of applause and loud booing. As he started his speech, several people sequentially stood up and turned their backs to the speaker. Signs pinned on their backs had the international no symbol over the words IFAW. As he continued his speech, different people in the audience interjected questions and corrections. More people stood up and turned their backs, and this emboldened others in the audience to continue to challenge Horowitz as he spoke. Horowitz was visibly taken aback by the opposition and stopped his speech several times, having difficulty getting back on track. His retorts to the audience consisted of childish name calling, disparaging the IQ of the audience. Some people in the crowd vocally opposed the disruptions and called for silence.

This went on for about 20 minutes, at which point there were about 25 people standing with their backs turned. The campus security then stopped the program and announced that if people didn’t sit down or move to the back of the auditorium, they would be escorted out. At that point, one person shouted “Everyone stand up – they can’t haul us all out!” Others echoed the same sentiment, and several people said, "Don't Taser Me, Bro." About 20 or 30 more people stood up and turned their backs. This created a lot of turmoil and heated discussion throughout the room. During this period, Horowitz walked off the stage. A chant broke out, "Racist, Sexist, Anti-Gay, David Horowitz Go Away." After a few minutes, a College Republican came on stage and announced that David Horowitz decided that he would not continue his speech, and they ended the event.

Horowitz could have continued despite the vocal opposition, as other speakers on the IFAW tour apparently have done this week under similar circumstances. It was clear that the majority of the audience was determined to continue interacting with him throughout his speech, since there was not going to be an open question and answer period at the end.

Many small group debates broke out at that point, with the main question being whether it was good or bad that people weren't able to hear Horowitz's entire speech. People with a deep understanding of who Horowitz is and his agenda of playing the victim while organizing attacks on dissent and critical thinking on campuses, creating a pogromist atmosphere against Muslims, and preparing the groundwork for war on Iran, argued that it was crucial to expose his lies and demand that he answer to what the United States is doing to people here and around the world. Others, while opposed to Horowitz's position, argued that they still had wanted to hear what he had to say in person, and were very upset that they were prevented from doing so. Some thought that his right to free speech had been violated, and that this would taint Emory's reputation. Others were overjoyed and inspired by the strength of the opposition.

In one group discussion, someone summed up that “I think what happened was fine, because if Horowitz continued his speech he would have told more lies, selectively chosen the questions to answer, and then instead of this controversy, people would have been outside in the hallway complaining about the fact that their voices weren't heard.'

David Horowitz's immediate blog on Frontpagemag.com concluded, "Universities like Emory are paying the price of not taking care of the important task of establishing a campus decorum appropriate to civilized discussion. As I have said many times, there should be zero tolerance for disrupters at campus events, and that means a sufficient police presence to eject the barbarians when they enter the gates."

Just as with everything David Horowitz puts out, this statement must be critically dissected. There are 3 things to say about this:

1. The required “campus decorum for civilized discussion,” in the world according to Horowitz, includes free reign for his claims that Blacks owe a debt to white America for slavery and that the Muslim Student Association is a front for Islamo-Fascist Jihad; Ann Coulter's statements that in the 'œwar on terror' we should 'invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity;" and Rick Santorum's calls to eliminate birth control and keep women out of the workforce. And of course, "civilized discussion" cannot include critiques of the official history of this country and its current role in the world, or Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, as expressed by Ward Churchill and Norm Finkelstein or any of the other "dangerous" professors targeted for removal from their universities.
2. The policy of “zero tolerance for disrupters,” in the world according to Horowitz, does not extend to College Republicans who answer his call to sit in at Women's Studies departments during IFAW.
3. "Sufficient police presence to eject the barbarians when they enter the gates" amounts to nothing less than a call for pre-emptive police powers to clamp down on any potential dissent.


Copy of a letter i sent to the emory wheel editors. for your information.
I read your article covering the David Horowitz speaking event with both interest and dismay. The article left out some key facts about the event and "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week" in general. Why the headlines about "outsiders shutting it down" when the organizers admitted that many Emory students were clearly involved? Additionally, the advertisement Horowitz's crew put in the Emory Wheel promoting this event stated that it was a public event being hosted on campus.

The audience was not going to be allowed to field open questions (as was made clear by the 3x5 index cards outside the event that people were asked to write their questions on) and if the speech had not been disrupted, what this guy had to say would have been recorded as having occurred largely unopposed. The Emory Wheel refused to print a paid ad from a leftist group criticizing Bush\'s threats of war on Iran shortly before the speech (even though Horowitz has advertised in the Wheel both this week and in the past). Certainly not an atmosphere of free debate, still less a \"leftist dictatorship on campus\" as Horowitz might spin it.

The pinnacle of hypocrisy, however, is the fact that the "Student's Guide to Hosting Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week" itself calls for "sit-ins in Women's Studies Departments and campus Women\'s Centers to protest their silence about the oppression of women in Islam" ( http://media0.terrorismawareness.org/files/Islamo-Fascmism-Awareness-Week-Guide.html [sic]). I've heard that at Emory, the Women\'s Studies department sent emails around warning instructors about disruptions in their classes this week. In his summation of Wednesday night's event, Horowitz wrote on his website, "[T]here should be zero tolerance for disrupters at campus events" ( Frontpagemag.com).

It sounds like Horowitz got a taste of his own medicine - and didn''t like it.

-Jay Pasinelli, "Outsider"
Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade, Atlanta

Organizing at Emory


Visit their Facebook page.

David Horowitz will be speaking as a part of this week at Emory University on October 24th. He is being brought to Emory by the College Republicans.
Based off of the original call some plans have been made to reach out to people at Emory University to raise awareness about the fascist offensive initiated by Horowitz. Come out to support and help spread the word on this campus, and if you go to another school you can also bring materials back and organize your classmates to come out and make our presence known at the Horowitz event on the 24th.

WEAR ORANGE, the color of torture victims in Guantanamo Bay and turn it into a color of MASS OPPOSITION!

Monday, October 15: Asbury Circle on Emory Campus @ 1pm, help take out flyers and ORANGE!!!

Tuesday, October 16: "State of Race" @ Emory at Glenn Memorial @ 7pm

Tuesday, October 16: Sonya Sanchez @ Woodruff Library 6pm

Wed., October 17: Jena 6 Townhall @ White Hall at 6:30 pm

Saturday, October 20: Meet up to finalize plans for Horowitz's appearance at Emory. 1pm @ Inman Perk Coffee (Across from Emory) 1593 N. Decatur Road, Atlanta, GA 30307


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To: MNJohnnie

Pathetic. I wonder if they would go to a Paul Simon concert and demand their turn on the guitar? Or a demand that Ann Coulter get a rebuttal session to every Hillary speech?

Hell - these people can’t even stand that Rush has his own radio show.

It’s not your speech, assmonkey. If you want time to speak yourself, say something worthwhile so that people will invite you to come speak.

This is the problem with libs - they think they simply DESERVE equality. Horowitz has made a name for himself that is bigger than theirs. They can’t deal with that. These protesters need to realize that they are NOBODIES and that if they want equality with someone who actually is a SOMEBODY they should make something of themselves (other than making asses of themselves).


21 posted on 10/26/2007 8:33:07 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: SJackson

ping


22 posted on 10/26/2007 8:33:16 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: massgopguy

I thought a university was a place you attended to become exposed to different ideas. Instead, this guy, and his fascist leftist friends, didn’t want to listen. It’s all about them. All about their protests. Differing ideas must be shut down. All of them.


23 posted on 10/26/2007 8:37:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: SJackson
Correct me if I missed something, but this person who said they stood silent to protest Horowitz’s speech, never once touched on the salient point of that speech, which is that Islamism is a mortal danger to the west and seeks to enforce the Three Demands on us (convert, submit or die).

So, the exact complaint against Horowitz was what? What he said or the fact he was attempting to speak? It appears from the video of the event, the protest was against the content.

The Left loves to scold the rest of us when we object to something they are presenting on television or National Public Radio. Their standard answer is, if you don’t like it you are free to change the channel. In other words, if you are standing in an area where someone is saying something you disagree with, you are free to leave.

Well, these people were free to leave when Horowitz was speaking, but instead of extending to him what they demand of the rest of us, they made it impossible for him to speak.

Free speech is dead on this campus.

24 posted on 10/26/2007 8:39:23 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: SJackson

These libidiots have set a precedence. What would they say about “free speech” protests if conservatives stood and booed their speakers, including Hitlery? Oh, I know, they would be maced, tazed and thrown out of the building, then arrested. O’Reilly tried to argue with a female RAT spokeswoman last night about the Horowitz affair, and she said over and over that the protest was “free speech”. Liberals are truly insane.


25 posted on 10/26/2007 8:40:58 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: samtheman

Did you read yesterday’s thread on Latino Unidos? They don’t want anyone on campus who’s at odds with their mission.


26 posted on 10/26/2007 8:42:37 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

No, I missed that.


27 posted on 10/26/2007 8:43:47 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: MNJohnnie
People with a deep understanding of who Horowitz is and his agenda of playing the victim while organizing attacks on dissent and critical thinking on campuses, creating a pogromist atmosphere against Muslims, and preparing the groundwork for war on Iran, argued that it was crucial to expose his lies and demand that he answer to what the United States is doing to people here and around the world.

My God, this is chillingly Stalinist.


28 posted on 10/26/2007 8:44:28 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: SJackson

NPR was going to do a piece on Horowitz the other day. I didn’t hear that, but I did hear how the local station introduced it: “Coming up we have a segment on David Horowitz, who runs smear campaigns against professors whose political views he disagrees with.”


29 posted on 10/26/2007 8:47:18 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: agere_contra

Should have just shot the rat bastards.


30 posted on 10/26/2007 8:48:45 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: SJackson
" we arrived to the event Wednesday night to a few stacks of index cards with instructions to write our questions down. I believe that it was this situation that led many to shout out, feeling their voices would not be heard otherwise."

No proof or facts... just "feelings" so they took it upon themselves to act like jackasses without writing down questions nor listening to that which they had opposing "feelings" about.

31 posted on 10/26/2007 8:51:35 AM PDT by avacado (Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
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To: SJackson

These Leftist would be first to join the brown shirts of the Nazi era.


32 posted on 10/26/2007 8:51:40 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: nathanbedford
My God, this is chillingly Stalinist.

Wow. Had not thought about it but you are just so so right. This is completely in the mode of Stalin.

33 posted on 10/26/2007 8:52:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Yo Democrats, You don't tell us how to wage war, we will not tell you how to be the village idiots.)
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To: SJackson
From Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda by Leonard W. Doob

14. Propaganda must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans.

a. They must evoke desired responses which the audience previously possesses

b. They must be capable of being easily learned

c. They must be utilized again and again, but only in appropriate situations

d. They must be boomerang-proof

18. Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.

34 posted on 10/26/2007 8:56:59 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: SJackson

After going through the multi-paragraph whinefest at the so-called “National Project to Defend Dissent & Critical Thinking in Academia” website, I looked a place to leave a comment, but apparently they aren’t interested in the views of anyone other than themselves. Predictable from a leftist group that disrupted a public event on the grounds that their views wouldn’t be heard by an audience who’d come to hear a specific speaker discuss a specific subject.


35 posted on 10/26/2007 8:57:31 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Paulus Invictus
What would they say about “free speech” protests if conservatives stood and booed their speakers, including Hitlery? Oh, I know, they would be maced, tazed and thrown out of the building, then arrested

That's what happens when you ask John Kerry a question.

36 posted on 10/26/2007 9:00:09 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: nathanbedford
My God, this is chillingly Stalinist.

And after free speech is stifled, when they come for your guns, make sure you are ready to shoot the ba$tard that sent them.

Not to be an alarmist, but somethings make me think CWII is around the corner. And this is one of them.

5.56mm

37 posted on 10/26/2007 9:01:49 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: SJackson
Sir, you are clearly of another world and have overdosed on the kool aid. You lost me and likely most with your inane comment about feeling as if you would not be heard because you were requested to write down your questions. This type of request is universal at these sorts of events. Your excuses are as weak as your political philosophy

What you meant was you and your communist friends wanted to ensure that ONLY your side was heard at the expense of any other views except yours.

You and your kind are merely thugs and your position is so very weak that you cannot possibly allow any conflicting views to be heard.

BTW, since you are admitted Communists, can you tell us any instance and any part of the world where Communism has succeeded? No, how about not succeeded but been as economically beneficial at the rate of even 5% of capitalism and democracy?

I think it was Churchill who said it best when he claimed

“The vice of capitalism is that it stands for the unequal distribution of goods and services,” said Churchill. “The virtue of socialism is that it stands for the equal distribution of misery.”

38 posted on 10/26/2007 9:03:23 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: SJackson
there would have been a much better chance that the disruption would have calmed.

So the author is admitting that there was a disruption.The anarchic concept of freedom allows disruptors to violate the private property rights of owners of theaters whenever they feel like it.So, where was the university? What is their policy with respect to anarchic freedom? If they disagreed with the concept of anarchic freedom, then they should have brought the disruptions to a halt since they are the owners of the property.

39 posted on 10/26/2007 9:03:30 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: SJackson
I simply MUST once again post the single most definitive statement by the worlds foremost political satirist. Read it my Communist friend and take note of the accuracy of its every word.:

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

40 posted on 10/26/2007 9:08:51 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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