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Austin mayor calls for 2008 rail election
Austin American Statesman ^ | 10/26/07 | Ben Wear

Posted on 10/26/2007 8:10:46 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan

Second phase would include a line to airport and North Austin.

By Ben Wear AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF Thursday, October 25, 2007

Austin Mayor Will Wynn today will call for a November 2008 election to build a Central Austin passenger rail system connecting the airport, downtown and the University of Texas, along with the Triangle and Mueller developments in near North Austin.

Unlike the current commuter rail project, which Capital Metro is building with its own, diminishing resources, Wynn will propose creating a task force of several jurisdictions to work out plans for the city and other governmental entities — and possibly developers and private companies — to pay for the project. This could include, Austin City Council Member Brewster McCracken says, selling bonds to be paid back with general city tax revenue as well as profits from Austin-Bergstrom International Airport.

Wynn said he would hope to avoid using general obligation debt, which would require a property tax increase.

"I'm going to try to build the case that now folks, we have to begin the next and obvious phase of our desperately needed comprehensive transportation system," Wynn said. "It should be our goal to do it with no new taxes."

Wynn said he hopes that the task force could conclude its business within six months, allowing the beginning of a rail election campaign by the summer.

Selling bonds would require permission of City of Austin voters (or Travis County voters, if commissioners decided to throw in some borrowed money as well), and Capital Metro under state law cannot build and operate additional lines without voter approval. This could mean simultaneous elections by the two sets of mostly the same voters, McCracken said, one to borrow the money and the other to allow the project.

No one knows what this would cost at this point. Capital Metro in 2006 proposed spending about $230 million to build a streetcar line from downtown to Mueller; the agency has revised that cost downward to $210.4 million. But what the mayor is discussing would be much more extensive, including a spur to the Triangle and a several mile run out to the airport that would have to include crossings of Interstate 35, Texas 71 and U.S. 183.

McCracken, in fact, has another extension in mind, this one to Zilker Park.

The technology — streetcars, electric-powered light rail or perhaps the same diesel cars that will run on the commuter rail line — is also a major unknown at this point. That task force Wynn envisions might address that as well as specific routes for the lines.

Capital Metro, under the mayor's scenario, would cover the operating costs for this second phase of rail. The agency has said in the past couple of years, however, that under its current financial projections it will go into the red in about four years, so it is not clear how the agency could cover the additional hit for rail.

Wynn will make his announcement at a noon meeting of the Downtown Austin Alliance, an advocate of building rail in downtown. Wynn has talked of having 25,000 downtown residents, about four times the current population there, a scenario that could create traffic and parking problems.

The airport's role in this plan carries a number of complications. McCracken said the airport, which struggled financially in the wake of the September 2001 terrorist attacks, is now profitable again. The city had even explored the idea of harvesting a windfall by signing a long-term lease with the private sector to run the airport. That showed, McCracken said, that the airport has an intrinsic value of $500 million to $1 billion, money that could be tapped for rail.

That would require, however, permission from the Federal Aviation Administration to use airport revenues for investments off the site. McCracken said the hope, as well, is that the project could get federal transit funding. Those grants have become increasingly harder to land in recent years.

"The City of Austin is going to have to significantly juice up its federal lobbying effort," McCracken said. "It's going to be complicated."

McCracken said that one approach being floated has the line coming in from the airport along Riverside Drive. He said the thinking is that there is enough available right of way, even as Riverside runs past the Travis Heights neighborhood, to have the train line outside the current curb line and thus not remove lanes for cars.

Travis County Commissioner Gerald Daugherty, a long-time opponent of passenger rail plans in Central Texas, scoffed at the plan. With money for road construction becoming tight, local policy leaders recently approved five more toll roads.

"It would be the most ridiculous use of money that I can think of," Daugherty said. "If you really know what the ridership was on the Dillo, which is a free means of transportation, that should tell you something about how people feel about public transit being their mode of transportation.

"How many more statistics does somebody need to have in front of them to realize that it is not the way that choice riders elect to get around?"

Wynn said, however, that a metropolitan area due to have about 1 million more people in a generation cannot depend only on roads.

"We kid ourselves if you look at the future with twice as many people that we can get there with a single transportation product," Wynn said.

bwear@statesman.com, 445-3698

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: capitalmewtro; commuterrail; lightrail; willwynn
Look mommy a choo choo train with nobody on it. Yes son and you're going to be paying for it for many years to come.
1 posted on 10/26/2007 8:10:47 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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To: Cat loving Texan

I guess I might just like the idea of public transport because I’m from NJ, and our system is pretty damn good.


2 posted on 10/26/2007 8:14:16 AM PDT by HHKrepublican_2 (Giuliani\Huckabee '08)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Public transportation works where a city’s transportation system was designed with it from the get go (New York and London). Austin is getting ready to spend millions of dollars on a commuter rail system that is expected to carry a maximumm of 4,000 people a day. Mooney can be better spent building roads.


3 posted on 10/26/2007 8:27:24 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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To: Cat loving Texan

>> Look mommy a choo choo train with nobody on it.

They have been having light rail boondoggle elections IIRC since the early ‘80s when I moved to Austin.

They are voted down, but the light rail lobby will never take no for an answer. They just keep comin’ at you until you knuckle under. Thirty years, if that’s what it takes... got a boondoggle industry to run.

And yeah, just like the laughable Austin city buses, it’ll be light rail with nobody on it! Because, as everyone in every Texas metro area knows in his/her heart:

“Light rail and buses are for YOU to ride... to make the freeways and parking lots less crowded for MY suv or pickup!”


4 posted on 10/26/2007 8:30:47 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Cat loving Texan
Public transportation works where a city’s transportation system was designed with it from the get go (New York and London).

New York was settled in 1624.

London was settled in 43 AD.

Neither had much of a public transportation system from the get-go.

5 posted on 10/26/2007 8:35:00 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Modern transportation. Cars etc.


6 posted on 10/26/2007 8:38:32 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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To: Cat loving Texan

All Perry’s fault.


7 posted on 10/26/2007 8:41:18 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Sometimes nuthin' is a real cool hand...)
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To: Alter Kaker; Cat loving Texan

>> 1624... 43AD... Neither had much of a public transportation system from the get-go.

Yeah, but right-of-way was much cheaper then! :-)

Seriously, I love the mass transportation in places I’ve been to WHERE IT WORKS (NY, Dresden, Berlin, Portland sort of, San Francisco, pretty much the whole island of Honshu, &etc).

Unfortunately, the light rail lobby has succeeded in installing it in places where it most certainly does NOT work (San Jose, CA comes to mind) and it becomes a boondoggle.

Austin is just too sprawled out for mass transit to work. The sole exception is the “hub and spoke” UT bus system.

Plus, we Aus-holes really hate to give up our own backyards for right-of-way (giving up YOUR backyard is, of course, always acceptable). If you know what I mean.


8 posted on 10/26/2007 8:43:25 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Nervous Tick

Does the city run the UT shuttle buses or are they run by the university?


9 posted on 10/26/2007 8:50:25 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Cat loving Texan
...selling bonds to be paid back with general city tax revenue as well as profits from Austin-Bergstrom International Airport.

Tax, tax, tax and people will leave the city in greater numbers.

Wynn has talked of having 25,000 downtown residents, about four times the current population there, a scenario that could create traffic and parking problems.

Wow, 25,000 of the projected 1 million they are talking about. That is .025% of the total population they expect. What are the other 97.75% going to do for transportation?

Wynn said, however, that a metropolitan area due to have about 1 million more people in a generation cannot depend only on roads.

I have a question for Mayor Wynn and Brewster McCrack-up. Just why did the city of Austin tear up the street car tracks from the early 1900s?

10 posted on 10/26/2007 8:56:39 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DC scandals. Republicans address them, Democrats reelect them. (Tom De Lay 8/30/07))
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To: McLynnan

When I was a ‘horn, UT contracted directly with Lawson to run their shuttle buses.

I don’t know what the current arrangement is. Could be UT contracts with City of Austin or something.

The buses have gotten nicer since when I went to school: now they’re air conditioned regular city-style buses. When I was a pup they were regular SCHOOL BUSES with hard bench seats and no A/C. Plus we had to walk uphill both ways to and from the bus stop... in the snow.


11 posted on 10/26/2007 8:59:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: McLynnan

City


12 posted on 10/26/2007 9:43:41 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: Nervous Tick; BubbaBobTX

Thanks. My daughter is at UT and takes a shuttle bus from the Hyde Park area to campus. She says the drivers scare her!


13 posted on 10/26/2007 12:50:38 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: McLynnan

>> She says the drivers scare her!

HA! When I was at UT, our bus drivers were primarily Middle Eastern. This was in the ‘80s during the Israeli-Lebanese conflict(s) — we used to joke that they must’ve learned to drive on bomb-cratered Lebanese roads, dodging mortar fire...


14 posted on 10/26/2007 1:00:33 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Cat loving Texan

Same song, different verse! Or in this case, different mayor and city council!

Voter in Austin voted down light rail more than 10 years ago!

Guess it is time again for the liberal politicians in Austin to beat that dead horse again!

Hey maybe this time they can get Rick Perry to figure out a way to turn the city streets into tollways so the state of Texas can pay for it!


15 posted on 10/26/2007 1:08:37 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (San Antonio Spurs - 2007 NBA Champions!)
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To: Cat loving Texan

Translation: We haven’t forced enough of you out of your cars yet so we will spend more of your tax money to create more mass transit options which you won’t ride.


16 posted on 10/27/2007 7:19:40 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: Cat loving Texan

Re building more roads in Austin: Sure - let’s do more concrete. I am not an environmentalist but I am all for rail transportation. Certainly one option to be incorporated with others for decreasing oil consumption. People will use rail if nothing else is available or if what is available is not that good. In cities that have rail it is so much easier to get around and I arrive at my destination without feeling like I have been put through a wringer. It’s wonderful for Seniors - you never have to worry about where you left your car!


17 posted on 10/27/2007 7:28:40 PM PDT by Grams A
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