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Man charged with killing police dog could get life under 'three strikes' law
The Oregonian ^ | October 25, 2007 | HOLLEY GILBERT

Posted on 10/25/2007 8:03:45 AM PDT by Bean Counter

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To: shekkian

I have a beautiful dog. I have had dogs all my life. I just don’t confuse dogs with people, that’s all.


21 posted on 10/25/2007 10:18:27 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: montag813
Why give him “life”? Won’t that cost taxpayers over $1 million? A “shanking” only costs a carton of cigarettes.

If S-CHIP ever passes, that might be a wash...

22 posted on 10/25/2007 10:19:49 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

You are right. Nontheless, shoot my dog and I will stomp a hole in your chest with my size 13s.


23 posted on 10/25/2007 10:23:37 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: gridlock
I have a beautiful dog. I have had dogs all my life. I just don’t confuse dogs with people, that’s all.

Having dogs and forming bonds with them are two different things (no matter how beautiful).

By your callous remark towards the officer's grief, I'd venture to guess you've missed out on some really great times with your "possesions".

24 posted on 10/25/2007 10:54:30 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Bean Counter

Life? Sounds good to me.


25 posted on 10/25/2007 10:55:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I’d say somebody feels threatened by dogs....(chuckle)


26 posted on 10/25/2007 11:30:48 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: gridlock
Treating dogs like people elevates the dog and lowers the status of people.

That's the dangerous component of this incident.

27 posted on 10/25/2007 11:41:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (The hyphen American with the loudest whine gets the grease.)
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To: Bean Counter

“...the man was seen fleeing as deputies arrived, Clark County Sheriff’s Sgt. Tim Bieber said.”

Sgt. Bieber should have stuned him.


28 posted on 10/25/2007 4:05:17 PM PDT by beelzepug ("One should never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: gridlock; shekkian

I do have a dog. A red lab. And I agree that this is just a dog. Police dogs are mere property(as are all dogs) and the man should only be charged with destroying police property...like say a squad car. If he shot the windows out of a squad car, that’s the level of seriousness this crime is, imo.


29 posted on 10/25/2007 4:14:41 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
...that’s the level of seriousness this crime is, imo.

Given the seriousness of his previous crimes, shooting out the windows of a squad car under these circumstances would probably be sufficient to land him in the pen for life under the three strikes rules.

I got no problem with that.

30 posted on 10/25/2007 4:19:18 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

Me neither. But don’t make this about a dog, for crying out loud.


31 posted on 10/25/2007 4:31:40 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: maine-iac7

I was just watching a show about a doctor from the old communist Czechoslovakia who was a pure incompetent and was responsible for a loss of life in anesthesia but was told not to practice high level medicine anymore.

He delivered babies in a home-like clinic. 6-9 babies died due to his use of a labor-inducing agent (he did not use a fetal monitor.)

He is in jail for 53 years to life for several counts of 2nd degree murder.

While he should be in jail, you could make the argument that he is less morally culpable (did not MEAN to harm) than this guy.

And yet the doc is still in jail (or dead) and this scumbag is out.

Reminds me of a case of a guy who shot a cop in Seattle. He was killed, thankfully, but he was out after serving only 8 years or so on murder charges.

Maybe we need to focus more on murderers, rapists and armed robbers and less on druggies—UNLESS, they step up into that category.


32 posted on 10/25/2007 5:38:53 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

“Given some of the people and many of the dogs I’ve met, that seems fair to me ;~)”

I agree.


33 posted on 10/25/2007 9:00:49 PM PDT by Humal
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To: Bean Counter

Fry. Him. Now.


34 posted on 10/25/2007 9:10:30 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Bean Counter

Second it. =^..^=


35 posted on 10/26/2007 4:28:44 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Bean Counter
How did he get a .357? After getting out of prison after 158 months where was his supervision??

You don't seriously think that anti-gun laws prevent criminals from getting guns do you? (shaking head in disbelief that someone would be so naive)

36 posted on 10/26/2007 4:32:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: shekkian; gridlock
Treating dogs like people elevates the dog and lowers the status of people. Losing a police dog is no reason to get all weepy in your beer. Buck up and get back to work. A new dog needs to be trained.

I take it you don't have a dog.

What difference does it make if someone has a dog or not. Dogs are ANIMALS (ie property) not little furry people any more than pigs, goats, cats, chickens, cattle and other domestic animals. They are incapable of reason. Animals should NEVER be given the status of people.

37 posted on 10/26/2007 4:38:36 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Bean Counter
"no matter how richly he deserved it."

I think putting him behind bars for life is a good idea, although it's too bad the taxpayers will have to pay for it. Are you really a bean counter? I am, too. Getting closer to retirement every day, though!

Carolyn

38 posted on 10/26/2007 5:01:24 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
Fear not. I have a standing policy never to pick fights with guys with screen-names like Scotsman will be Free.
39 posted on 10/26/2007 5:05:02 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

I worded my post poorly. My apologies. It should have stated; “If someone shoots my dog...” I didn’t mean to suggest that you would shoot my dog.


40 posted on 10/26/2007 5:47:01 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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