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Buy Now, Pay Forever
yahoo finance ^ | Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 12:00AM | Anya Kamenetz

Posted on 10/24/2007 8:00:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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1 posted on 10/24/2007 8:00:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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3. It's the debt, stupid!

It's the stupid debtor.

There, fixed it.

2 posted on 10/24/2007 8:01:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: BenLurkin
"The morning of my twenty-first birthday, I got a call that I had missed a payment. I had over-the-limit fees, late fees, my interest rate spiked from 11 percent to 29 percent, and my minimum payment went from $10 to $89. I couldn't afford it -- I had to take out another student loan. And it ruined my credit."

I want a refund of everything I paid for her education.

3 posted on 10/24/2007 8:05:15 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: BenLurkin

I never buy anthing I cant afford.


4 posted on 10/24/2007 8:07:38 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: ßuddaßudd
I never buy anthing I cant afford.

I'd like to buy a "y" for this gentleman, please. ;->

5 posted on 10/24/2007 8:12:10 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I want a refund of everything I paid for her education.

Why? She was more prudent than most customers, by setting up automatic payments to protect herself.

As usual, the companies just capriciously rewrote all agreements to their benefit, as usual.

One must read every four-point "aboveforementioned notwithstanding, Company reserves the right to.." 8-1/2"X14 page they get AND check the account every week in full paranoia mode to prevent these things.

She did more to protect herself than most consumers do. Most just sit there in a coma, buy more and more, and do not even know what rate they are paying, or how they are going to end the death spiral.

6 posted on 10/24/2007 8:14:23 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = "Cesspool + Flavor-Straw")
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To: Calpernia; cbkaty; Nervous Tick; ex-Texan; RockinRight; NVDave; Neidermeyer; Travis McGee; sbMKE; ..

Economy/Credit/Mortgage issues ping list

Let me know if you want on or off this list.


7 posted on 10/24/2007 8:14:43 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: BenLurkin

Like anything else in life, they’re a tool that can be used very effectively by responsible people, not so by less responsible people.


8 posted on 10/24/2007 8:18:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: BenLurkin
The paradox of the American economy today is that the best advice for every individual American (getting out of debt and living within - or beneath - one's means) creates catastrophe for the economy as a whole, which is heavily dependent on Americans taking on more and more debt to buy more and more Chinese crap and other bling bling.

It's not good for the USA that the Depression is no longer in our national memory.

9 posted on 10/24/2007 8:19:26 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ("If it ain't broken, fix it 'till it is" - Congress)
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To: BenLurkin

It is so easy to drift into debt. I didn’t get my first card till I was 29 and a grad student. I was paying it off every month and then I needed some major dental work. I put it on the card and that was the beginning of the end for me. I just gradually sank and didn’t put up much of a fight. I’d been poor for so many years it just felt so good to be able to buy things. Now, of course, I’m sorry I wasn’t more careful. But... you live and learn, I guess.


10 posted on 10/24/2007 8:20:18 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: BenLurkin
3. It's the debt, stupid!: Credit cards let you buy stuff you can't afford with money you don't have. They make you poorer in the long run, plain and simple.

Bull.

While true for idiot who just have to have something that 1) they don't need and 2) can't afford, its not the credit cards fault.

Credit Cards are a powerful tool when used properly. Online purchases allow one to save great amounts of money on a wide variety of purchases. But 99 out of 100 of the sellers require payment by credit card.

Credit Cards also offer you additional purchase protection that Cash doesn't. And many cards will double the manufacturers warranty for some major purchases.

Credit Cards are not the problem. Financial idiots are the problem.

11 posted on 10/24/2007 8:26:54 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Hey, at least you went into debt for a much needed expense.

Now had you charged your credit cards to buy a plasma TV, then....


12 posted on 10/24/2007 8:27:47 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: A_perfect_lady

Well at least they can’t repo the smile! I have plenty of friends in Grad School with some very nice plasma Tv’s and while it is awesome to go over to their place to play games or watch movies I can’t help but wonder then the other shoe is gonna drop. “I’ll just get another card to pay off this one!”


13 posted on 10/24/2007 8:28:54 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

LOL... no, no plasma TV. Nothing like that. But you know women, we won’t pay $2000 for any one thing, but we’ll buy 200 things that were “only” 10 bucks each, so... eventually we end up in the same stupid trap.


14 posted on 10/24/2007 8:37:18 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Phantom Lord

“Financial idiots are the problem.”

Many people are NOT idiots, they are ignorant!

We need to focus at least some high school education time on personal finances. There are a lot of kids graduating that simply don’t understand even simple financial things and really don’t understand credit and interest rates at all.

They are very likely to get in trouble when they get credit cards.

This is as fundamental a need as the three R’s in todays society.


15 posted on 10/24/2007 8:40:00 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Izzy Dunne; ßuddaßudd
I never buy anthing I cant afford.

I'd like to buy a "y" for this gentleman, please. ;->

If I may, I'd like to chip in and purchase him an apostrophe. ;->

16 posted on 10/24/2007 8:41:03 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Larry Lucido
The morning of my twenty-first birthday, I got a call that I had missed a payment. I had over-the-limit fees, late fees, my interest rate spiked from 11 percent to 29 percent, and my minimum payment went from $10 to $89.

Over-the-limit fees and late fees aren't the same thing. She's not telling the whole story.

17 posted on 10/24/2007 8:42:39 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: BenLurkin

Those “pre-approved offers” are simply Instant Ident-A-Theft Kits[tm] produced for use against you. That being the case, the companies that generate them should be on the hook for resulting identity thefts, for the same reason someone who breaks your front door (but doesn’t go in) should be on the hook for damages if a burglar later takes advantage of the opportunity.


18 posted on 10/24/2007 8:46:56 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
>>I never buy anthing I cant afford.

I'd like to buy a "y" for this gentleman, please. ;->

I'll kick in for an apostrophe. I'm not a grammar Nazi, but I can't resist an easy shot.

19 posted on 10/24/2007 8:47:05 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: A_perfect_lady

Remember....

A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs. A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn’t need but it’s on sale.


20 posted on 10/24/2007 8:48:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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