Angry dad defended, bashed by readers

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[Scotsman will be Free]

Please post your entire opinion in one response, then. I was replying to what you posted.

[Scotsman will be Free]

But you already admitted that if your daughter was having consensual sex at 15 you would have failed. I’m assuming that you would have already talked to her about STDs, pregnancy, casual sex, values, etc. so what’s the point of doing so again? You should join the state dept. Talk, talk, talk, talk. They, like you, accomplish nothing. I haven’t seen where you are taking the responsibility for anything. You are just talking to your daughter again. BFD.
By the way, you are like the MSM. A 17 year old doing a 15 year old isn’t a “kid” in the sense that you mean it. He has stepped into the realm of adulthood, and must accept the consequences of his actions.

[LIConFem]

"The feminist have helped destroy our morals and culture."

It's also the feminists who place 100% of the blame on the boy in these situations. As another poster on this thread said, if this father had raised his daughter to keep her ankles crossed, this wouldn't have happened. Both kids and their parents share blame for the kids' indiscretions.

[AnotherUnixGeek]

But you already admitted that if your daughter was having consensual sex at 15 you would have failed. I’m assuming that you would have already talked to her about STDs, pregnancy, casual sex, values, etc. so what’s the point of doing so again?

Interesting - so when you find out your kids aren't behaving correctly, you just give up? Or - let me guess - hit them? Father of the year material, apparently.

You should join the state dept. Talk, talk, talk, talk. They, like you, accomplish nothing.

Here's a clue for you - your daughter is not Ahmedinijad. You're supposed to be doing your best for her, not working against her in you own interest. But if I have to explain this, fatherhood isn't something you know much about.

I haven’t seen where you are taking the responsibility for anything. You are just talking to your daughter again. BFD.

Yes, you have. Talking to your kids and leading by example is how parenting gets done. And that is a BFD to real parents.

[AnotherUnixGeek]

I also live in a world called reality, which is where we differ.

The difference is that in my world of reality, I accept responsibility for my own mistakes and don't try to blame them on some kid.

[libs_kma]

Wrong again pal. I accept responsibility for my actions too.

But I expect others to do the same. And I'm not willing to give him a pass, but you are.

[Scotsman will be Free]

But, but, but if your daughter is having consenual sex at 15 then, according to you, you are a failure as a father. Also, if you haven’t instilled values in her by age 15, what makes you think that you can do so now as you have obviously FAILED to do so to date.
Here’s a clue. Sometimes, inspite of a parent’s best efforts, the kid blows it off and does something really stupid. That is what kids, particularly teenagers do. If you haven’t gotten to that part yet I suggest that you pack it in, because you are a menace to society. Now, if you think that any child who makes a mistake is proof positive of poor parenting then you are a bigger fool than your posts reveal.
I have enjoyed reading your arrogant, holier than thou, I’m the best parent in the world posts. They have been amusing, and I have enjoyed jerking your chain. Go away, and grow up.

[AnotherUnixGeek]

Also, if you haven’t instilled values in her by age 15, what makes you think that you can do so now as you have obviously FAILED to do so to date.

What makes you think I'd stop trying? Actual men don't throw up their hands and run away from their parental responsibilities.

Sometimes, inspite of a parent’s best efforts, the kid blows it off and does something really stupid. That is what kids, particularly teenagers do.

And when they do, you give up.

Now, if you think that any child who makes a mistake is proof positive of poor parenting then you are a bigger fool than your posts reveal.

Wait...you think a teenager making a conscious decision to have sex at the age of fifteen is just a "mistake"? Here's another clue - a mistake is stubbing your toe. A daughter having sex at fifteen has made a decision that reflects entirely on the job you've done as a parent.

I have enjoyed reading your arrogant, holier than thou, I’m the best parent in the world posts.They have been amusing, and I have enjoyed jerking your chain.

LOL - nah, I don't believe you've enjoyed my posts at all. Your posts indicate clearly that you mostly don't understand what I've been saying, since you keep sputtering the same non sequiturs over and over again. But if this closing attempt at bravado makes it easier for you to give up, go ahead. Since you're such an advocate of giving up, I don't doubt that you know the best ways to do it.

Go away, and grow up.

One final clue - grown-ups don't give up on their kids.

[Scotsman will be Free]

Thanks for the advice. LOL. Now go back to your soap box. You have another attribute. You can read minds. My God, you are amazing!

[AnotherUnixGeek]

My God, you are amazing!

It's pretty sad that you think parents who accept responsibility for their own parenting and try to do better instead of blaming and beating some teenager are "amazing". But giving up is certainly easier.

[TalBlack]

Wow. More advocacy of violence because it happened “in the past”. I don’t care if it happened in the past. it was wrong then, it’s wrong now. And lastly, the only balance of power that could possibly shift is giving the teenager involved sovereign right to his body. If someone attacked me on the street unprovoked, you can bet I would call the cops. Same thing here.

One more time: IRRELEVANT means IRRELEVANT.

“And lastly, the only balance of power that could possibly shift is giving the teenager involved sovereign right to his body.”

I wish I knew WTF this means.

In any event the kid has no more or less right to his body than before. While we are discussing ‘rights’ though we might also interlard a few ‘responsibilities’, remember those? THEY happened in the past too. Such considerations were inseparable.Thats part of the reason WHY the cops would once have told the punk to wipe his nose and STFU. Another part would be the sexual actives risk of disease, mental health complications as well as the very real specter of a new unwanted and unprepared for life. “Sovereignty” is a nice, grand sounding word but it ASSUMES “responsibility”. It DEMANDS it. How do you suppose this pantywaist punk defines responsibility? Let me help you: Anything that gets him into the next girls pants and damn the complications.

If he see this (which i doubt)he will in all likelihood be grateful for your help and support for him in his mission in life. He has no responsibilities and there is no price to his game. I'da' LOVED that at 17.