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To: tanuki; Cicero
Thank you, Cicero. I now Spain is just a small country thousands of miles away. I would simply like to offer to the english speaking community a different version of what it is going on here, so if someone is interested, at least now he is free to get this information.

tanuki, Cicero,

Yes, it is striking to check that Franco's uprising in 1936 was prepared after the left wing controlled parliament overuled the powers of the then president of the Republic, breaking de facto the second republic constitution; and it was triggered when police officers and Socialist members kidnapped and killed opposition leader José Calvo-Sotelo.

However, all this facts were forgotten after Franco's death and, as you say, the Socialists were considered during the 1970's (even during the late Franco's years) as a firewall against the Communist party (although the Communists did not kill Calvo-Sotelo). Therefore, the Socialist party could began its operations during the late Franco years, with its members moving undisturbed by the security corps and received funding from the first democratic governments and Germany (case Flick), among other countries.

I am afraid, then began the collaboration between the Socialists and members of the Spanish Security Corps, a collaboration that during the 1980's ended in a collusion that Aznar was unwilling or unable to break.

However, the Communist Party in Spain never got above 10% of seats in the parliament. In addition, thanks to Ronald Reagan, the Communist block began to crumble down in 1986.

A monster was created for nothing.

And now their ‘big brothers’ in the EU have a hand in the Spanish legal system? This whole situation looks less and less like what the voters of ‘80 wanted and more like what the Hungarians in ‘56 got.

Very good question. Check that Germany and France, both industrial countries, might like the idea of most of Spain as a plantation of picturesque slaves where they can go on holidays, with no industry to compete with theirs. That is, a Lebensraum, a place to sell their products and enjoy the weather, but not a threat to their Socialist economies.

It is true they did not like Aznar for the same reason Basque and Catalonian Nationalist did not. Especially when Aznar began to sell Spanish defence companies to American ones (Santa Barbara to General Dynamics, the proposed collaboration of Bazan with Lockheed). The defence industry is still very profitable for Germany and France, and letting the enemy getting inside the EU was, for their Socialist economies, a dangerous issue.

Moreover, Zapatero has so much dirty laundry that for their support he votes anything. Spanish population has grown 10% in recent years, however, last week, our seats in the European parliament were reduced by 1, to 54.

The same can be applied to Italy. They are happy of not having Spain as competitor. Moreover, his energy state monopoly ENEL was authorized to take over the biggest Spanish energy company, ENDESA, in an operation were few laws were left unbroken and two agents of the Spanish Secret services were caught by the ENDESA president's bodyguards.

The EU government did not complain, which IMHO clearly portrays what the EU really is.

As a summary, Zapatero is selling pieces of Spain to keep the main EU members happy. This explains the silence of their media about 3/11 and why it was a Dutch TV channel the only one that has dared to give a balanced view of the case.
8 posted on 10/24/2007 1:16:52 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar

I was familiar with the basic history of the Spanish Civil War (not the Lincoln Brigade Version) at an early age, and my sympathies were with the Catholics who were murdered by the “progressive” Socialists and Communists.

Franco got a bad press, to say the least.

So it was not surprising when the Socialists rode into power in reaction to him. What was surprising and gratifying was that they did not stay in power. But now they have a second shot at it, and will surely try to arrange things so they don’t leave a second time.

That’s always the risk with Communists. Once in power, they stay in power, and can only be thrown out by popular uprisings, because they bend the laws and the communications media to their own desires.

I just hope it hasn’t got that far again.


10 posted on 10/24/2007 9:13:32 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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