Posted on 10/22/2007 1:40:30 PM PDT by Mount Athos
A Garuda jet crashed, killing 21 people including five Australians, after the pilots ignored no fewer than 15 warnings, a report has found.
And the sister of one of the dead, Australian Financial Review journalist Morgan Mellish, angrily confronted Indonesia's Transport Minister, demanding to know what action would be taken against the pilot and co-pilot, who survived the crash.
Caroline Mellish was furious that authorities refused to use the words "pilot error" or comment on any legal action against the crew.
"What is happening to the pilots? Twenty-one deaths on his conscience. Is that all he has?" Ms Mellish asked Jusman Syafei Jamal as he tried to leave the press conference.
The minister replied it was not his responsibility.
Tatang Kurniadi, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Committee, the KNKT, also would not use the words "pilot error". [...]
But national police spokesman Sisno said police were awaiting recommendations from KNKT, and that if they didn't get them they would conduct their own inquiry.
The KNKT's final report into the March 7 crash at Yogyakarta airport, in central Java, was released yesterday.
It was scathing of the actions of the pilot and co-pilot, saying the plane landed at double the normal speed and that "during the approach the Ground Proximity Warning System alerts and warnings sounded 15 times and the co-pilot called for the PIC (pilot in command) to go around".
The report says that shortly after touchdown "the co-pilot called, with high intonation, for the PIC to go around".
It notes that the pilot failed to follow procedure and instead was "fixated on landing the aircraft on the runway and he either did not hear or disregarded the GPWS alerts and warnings and calls from the co-pilot to go around."
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
Pilot was singing during descent...
Indonestian safety report states,
“The pilot was probably emotionally aroused because his conscious awareness moved from the relaxed mode “singing” to the heightened stressfulness of the desire to reach the runway by making an excessively steep and fast, unstabilised approach”
"After" touchdown. Lousy reporting.
Sounds like a textbook example of bad CRM.
what is crm
Landed at double the normal speed?? Good grief, that puts the touchdown speed somewhere north of 200 knots, depending on the type jet.
CRM is the acronym for Crew Resource Management. It is all about how crew members communicate and work together and in recent years has become the focus of air safety wonks because it was found that many crashes were the result of crew members working at cross-purposes. One component of CRM training is dealing with scenarios where the pilot not flying should take control away from the pilot flying.
I’ve flown Air Tanzania,Air Malawi and China Air,among other airlines in my lifetime...but not recently.Never again will I fly a Second World airline (like Aeroflot) or a Third or Fourth World airline...or any airline with a bad safety record even if it’s from an industrialized country (like China Air).
Not necessarily. If I recall the story correctly, the jet landed to fast and skidded off the end of the runway.
The copilot may have had a few seconds after touchdown to say something as the jet careened down the runway. IANAP but, at high speed, the pilot may have been able to take back off again to make another landing attempt.
IIRC, one of the most common sounds heard on cockpit voice recorders
prior to crash are...
a crew member whistling.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
If it's a clean touchdown then going around is definitely an option to avoid a runway excursion.
“Al-lah-forn-i-a, here we come!”
“Garuda is so lax on safety its blacklisted with the European Union airports.”
Gupta Airlines OTOH have a 100% safety record!
http://www.nola.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/living-0/119156598056940.xml&coll=1
This article told me nothing about when the accident occured, the type of jet, all of that who, what, when and why stuff.
There used to be a great "reverse acronym" for Garuda but I've forgotten it.
This site says it's "Good And Reliable.........Under Dutch Administration" but I've heard a better one that reflects their record :)
Thanks. I thought that was probably the case.
Strange group of people....
:)
As it flew by (twice) the *pilots* rocked the wings, those on deck applauded & thought it all pretty neat.
Just one problem, only *3* engines.
Good luck to Morgan Mellish as she seeks valid, legit answers.
...from an Indonesian Transportation *Minister*. ;^)
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