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To: dragnet2

As a resident of Nevada, where we’ve had millions of acres burn as a result of BLM land management policies that are forced down upon us as the result of lawsuits by California environmentalists, many of whom are funded, aided and abetted by celebrities in Malibu, I can say forthrightly that:

1. California’s environmentalists (and their enablers) seem to have forgotten that karma (yes, that new-age hippy-dip concept they like to spout) is a two-sided coin. What goes around has come around. Boo freakin’ hoo.

2. They’ve been living under the same idiotic policies they’ve forced down on us, so it isn’t reasonable to think that they’d be exempt from the results. News flash from the Almighty: You’re no exception. Let the fuel build up and you’ve got a blow-up in your future.

3. When the number of burned acres gets to 500,000 gimme a call. I won’t shed a tear until then. We’re losing hundreds of thousands of acres almost every year thanks to these idiot environmentalists in California sticking their noses into our business over here.

Until people get their heads out of their posteriors and start shouting down the environmental community, you Californians are going to have these blow-ups. Just to remind folks in California, there’s three sides to the fire triangle: air, fuel, heat. You can’t do anything about air and heat. The only variable you can control on a landscape-wide basis is fuel. That means cutting trees, controlled burns, and (yes!) grazing to remove fine-stemmed fuels. With proper management, evil corporations and right-thinking people can be brought in to make money on two out of those three fuel removal processes.


44 posted on 10/22/2007 12:38:23 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
As a resident of Nevada, where we’ve had millions of acres burn as a result of BLM land management policies that are forced down upon us as the result of lawsuits by California environmentalists, many of whom are funded, aided and abetted by celebrities in Malibu, I can say forthrightly that:

You obviously are another that hasn't a clue here. Ya see, California, it's topography, large population, and Santa Ana winds aren't Nevada, and it has little to do with environmentalist in events such as wind blown wild brush fires that can spread and jump around for miles in different directions.

I know you'd like to blame California here, and the environmentalist, but please read below.

California has more acreage of steep, super rugged geography than many states have land. Many of these areas are totally inaccessible for most equipment, even for those on foot, add in very strong winds, with embers that can travel at 60 plus miles per hour, for *miles* into neighborhoods and other areas, that are far from the fires...

Would you suggest sending in several hundred thousand people every summer to be airlifted into hundreds of square miles, into all these super rugged steep areas to cut the brush?

46 posted on 10/22/2007 12:49:08 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: NVDave; dragnet2
We’re losing hundreds of thousands of acres almost every year thanks to these idiot environmentalists in California sticking their noses into our business over here.

Yup. It's deja vu all over again.

Crisis on our National Forests: Reducing the Threat of Catastrophic Wildfire [San Bernardino Fires]

Here's the real problem:

A Burning Desire, A Critique of the Sierra Club Public Lands Fire Management Policy (1999)

49 posted on 10/22/2007 12:54:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: NVDave
That means cutting trees, controlled burns, and (yes!) grazing to remove fine-stemmed fuels. With proper management, evil corporations and right-thinking people can be brought in to make money on two out of those three fuel removal processes.

You don't think you can auction off the right to start controlled burns?

61 posted on 10/22/2007 1:44:28 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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