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The Failed Party
American Thinker ^ | October 22, 2007 | Jeffrey Schmidt

Posted on 10/22/2007 5:29:06 AM PDT by vietvet67

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To: drc43
Well for a “failed” party, an awful lot of them continue to get elected.

That was my thought as well.

Then it occurred to me: The level of knowledge and understanding of American voters is generally very low. The Dems have failed, but many voters just don't know it.

21 posted on 10/22/2007 7:57:28 AM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
The term "Compassionate Conservative" makes me want to puke. When we are called "mean" by liberals we should consider it a compliment. Remember that Margret Thatcher was called the "Iron Lady". Nothing compassionate about her. Either shape up or ship out was her motto.

Especially now that we find out to be a COMPASSIONATE conservative means that we invite in the rest of the world's labors so the economy of some will be maintained. They forget history so quickly, because there will be a BACKLASH on the magnitude we have NO ability to fund when the cheap laborers demand back pay.

22 posted on 10/22/2007 8:01:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: vietvet67

I must disagree with the premise - the REPUBLICANS are the Stupid Party, mainly because they cannot complete the defeat of the Evil Party, which has such a bankrupt set of policies, and such morally bankrupt leaders, that they shouldn’t even exist as anything more organized than the Mafia.


23 posted on 10/22/2007 8:30:14 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: syriacus

They don’t care. It ain’t their money and the more they spend, the more comes in.

Maybe we should just drive down the road and throw it out the window. Pretty soon, the way the economy is going, the dollar will have no value anyway.


24 posted on 10/22/2007 8:35:47 AM PDT by wizr (A step in Faith will set you free.)
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To: TChris
"The Dems have failed, but many voters just don't know it."

Masquerading their failures (with the connivance of the MSM) counts almost as success to me.

They retain power no matter what.

25 posted on 10/22/2007 9:00:25 AM PDT by drc43 (Defeat is within our grasp... Nancy Pelosi)
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To: vietvet67

Kudos to John McCain at last night’s Republican debate for repeatedly reminding people that:

“Hillary is a liberal Democrat and I am a conservative Republican.”

This message needs to be pounded home by whoever wins the Republican nomination. (And if it isn’t a conservative Republican, we’re in trouble.)


26 posted on 10/22/2007 2:20:15 PM PDT by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: Just mythoughts
I agree that there are similarities in our fights against the two "isms" - Communism and Islamo-fascism.

Too bad we didn't arm the South Koreans better, before we abandoned them in 1949.

27 posted on 10/22/2007 4:28:33 PM PDT by syriacus (When you think "government health care," remember "public housing.")
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To: syriacus
A BRIEF ACCOUNT OF THE KOREAN WAR By Jack D. Walker
The Russians trained and equipped an army in the North, withdrew, and challenged the U.S. to do likewise.

The South Koreans and the U.S. State Department wanted the American troops to stay, but the GAROA funds expired on June 20, 1949, and the U.S. Army had no funds to keep the troops there. They were withdrawn.

Most everyone agrees that had the U.S. troops remained, there would have been no war. U.S. troops remained in West Germany and Communist East Germany did not invade. Clearly, the Korean War could have been prevented by an adequate peacetime defense budget.


28 posted on 10/22/2007 4:37:26 PM PDT by syriacus (When you think "government health care," remember "public housing.")
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To: drc43
Well for a “failed” party, an awful lot of them continue to get elected.

For most US citizens, the socialist appeal of: vote for me and I will get you someone else's money, and also get someone to pay for your medical bills, will trump the conservative opposition. - tom

29 posted on 10/22/2007 4:45:50 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: AZFolks; All

The Weekly Standard article by Professor Ceaser:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1910756/posts


30 posted on 10/22/2007 4:48:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: drc43
Well for a “failed” party, an awful lot of them continue to get elected.

For now.

Look at what it takes to get them elected now as opposed to 30 years ago. Today's Democrat has to pander to every nut case out there and continually try to offer ever more difficult to implant and sustain social welfare programs. There is no fundament consistent theory of liberalism. That has long ago given way to trying to appease the numerous special inerests groups. Like a giant ponzi scheme sooner or later it all collapses.

This applies to the Republican party as well. Recently, the GOP has started to back off its conservative principals in favor of appealing to special interest groups. The recent immigration bill debacle illustrates this point. No true conservative can be in favor of illegal immigration, but many so-called conservative leaders attempted to cram it down our throats in an attempt to appease big business and other special interest groups.

31 posted on 10/22/2007 4:48:49 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: syriacus
In 1948-49, under Truman, the US military budget was cut to the bone and troops were withdrawn from an unstable and militarily weak S. Korea.

But Republicans controlled both houses in the 80th Congress (1947-49) which includes one of your mentioned years so you can't blame Truman entirely.

Republicans Democrats
House 246 188
Senate 51 45
Control reverted to Democrats in the next election.

It's interesting that the Republicans also controlled Congress from '94 and helped Clinton spend the "peace dividend" and slash our military.

32 posted on 10/22/2007 5:08:44 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: edsheppa
you can't blame Truman entirely.

Harry "The Buck Stops Here" Truman could have been a man....like Bush... and fought to keep the troops in S. Korea.

Instead, he slashed the defense budget and withdrew the troops.

33 posted on 10/22/2007 5:33:15 PM PDT by syriacus (When you think "government health care," remember "public housing.")
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To: vietvet67
The Failed Party

What do you expect with a party like this?


34 posted on 10/22/2007 5:51:06 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
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To: vietvet67
...liberals were unmoored and open to the challenges of Tom Hayden and others in Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), whose fealty to the Socialist Ideal and anti-Americanism made accommodations with the liberal establishment unthinkable.

The guiding philosophy of today's liberalism is anti-Americanism. Why? Because liberalism was confronted -- and defeated by -- "Tom Hayden and others in Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)", who were essentially (if not actually) Communists -- and, thus, enemies of America.

That is how the enemies of America came to be running one of the two major parties in the country.

35 posted on 10/22/2007 5:56:58 PM PDT by okie01
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To: syriacus
Bush only stepped up to the plate after 9/11. Until that time his Administration was sleep walking on foreign threats just like the Clinton Admin.
36 posted on 10/22/2007 6:42:44 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: edsheppa
Bush only stepped up to the plate after 9/11

Bush hasn't abandoned Iraq, like "Give 'em Hell, Harry" Truman abandoned S. Korea in 1949.

37 posted on 10/23/2007 5:30:07 AM PDT by syriacus (When you think "government health care," remember "public housing.")
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To: syriacus

Truman didn’t abandon South Korea and that is why there is a South Korea today.


38 posted on 10/23/2007 8:00:31 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: drc43

Yes, and actually it is the GOP which is the Stupid Party and the Dems who are the Evil Party. The Dems are not stupid just horridly wrong and evil in their policies. The GOP will not unite to beat the Hildabeast and get some lower ticket GOPers elected. They take stances that offend the BASE. Now that is stupid.


39 posted on 10/23/2007 11:08:49 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: edsheppa
there is a South Korea today.

Yes!!!

It's apparent that Truman realized his mistake in pulling out the troops, since he sent troops back.

In June of 1950, he said he was going to send Americans back to S. Korea to fight a "police action" against "bandits." (The President’s News Conference of June 29, 1950

"Police action" was a bit of an understatement.

2,849 Americans died in the first month of the "police action."

Close to 8,000 Americans died in the first 3 months .

Winning back S. Korea was deadly work.

40 posted on 10/24/2007 5:39:47 AM PDT by syriacus (When you think "government health care," remember "public housing.")
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