I would agree with you if his current WORDS are ignored. But if he wins with conservative support, we can rightly say he won BECAUSE he changed his mind, and embraced the conservative cause. Then we can hold his feet to the fire and make him live up to his promises.
If he doesn’t, we aren’t “marginalized” because we were lied to.
That’s why I wouldn’t vote for a Linc Chafee, because we’d deserve what we got, as he’d be doing what he promised.
It’s why I give some people a hard time when they attack Bush for immigration — because Bush said during the campaign exactly what he was doing as President. He didn’t “turn out” differently in that case.
I’m not saying Rudy is SAYING all the right things either. But he is saying a LOT MORE right things than Hillary, and if he lived up to what he says he’d be a lot more conservative than Joe. For example, Joe would never appoint John Roberts, Scalia,or Thomas.
I don’t know if Rudy would either, but he SAYS he would, and people who have always been trustworthy on the abortion issue that are associated with Rudy SAY he is telling the truth.
It’s not enough for me to support him in the primary, but it’s enough for me not to stay home in the general election.
“I would agree with you if his current WORDS are ignored.”
Sorry, his current WORDS are merely trimming his sails, or outright lies. But even counting his current WORDS, he is little more than a somewhat more conservative liberal Democrat.
“But if he wins with conservative support, we can rightly say he won BECAUSE he changed his mind, and embraced the conservative cause.”
He’s hardly become a conservative. He’s still a damned baby-killer, his stance on gun rights is nearly indecipherable, as is his stance on government funding of abortion. He still thinks that abortion is a “constitutional right” and still thinks that a “strict constructionist” justice could uphold Roe. He’s still a statist as far as can be seen. He really has never repudiated his lawsuit against gun manufacturers. He’s misrepresented his previous positions on taxes. He’s still a big backer of the homosexual agenda.
“I’m not saying Rudy is SAYING all the right things either.”
Even with the trimming of sails and outright lies, Mr. Giuliani is still saying a lot of WRONG things.
He’s a baby-killer, pure and simple.
If he becomes president, he will do more harm than Mrs. Clinton would as president, as he would lead the formerly-conservative, formerly-pro-life Republican Party down the path of irrelevance and destruction.
The lesson learned would be that conservatism doesn’t win elections, pro-life doesn’t win elections, pro-family doesn’t win elections. The lesson learned would be to dump us social conservatives overboard.
If you don’t think that’s the case, then you haven’t been following the discourse at Free Republic since last winter, when all the damned rudybots were quite explicit in their desire to elect the baby murderer, to give them what they needed to throw social conservatives out of the party.
Electing Mr. Giuliani would cause the Republican Party to cave into every evil social legislation that the Democrat majority would propose, and that the baby killer would sign. Electing Mr. Giuliani would destroy the only current mainstream vehicle for any sort of social conservatism in the United States. Mr. Giuliani is a present danger to the republic, even worse than Mrs. Clinton, as at least, Mrs. Clinton's election would engender resistance to her liberal policies from Congressional Republicans.
When your house is burning down, don't burn down the fire station, too.
“It’s not enough for me to support him in the primary, but it’s enough for me not to stay home in the general election.”
Gee, I don’t know why you keep coming back to this “staying home” thing. I’ll be out voting on election day. Straight Republican ticket EXCEPT for any baby killers at the top of the ticket.
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