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To: tioga

“I would say post two made an astute observation. One worth thinking about.”

I don’t. I think it is reflective of a “gotcha” mentality, that completely ignores the problem and the victims.

Other than that, I agree with you.


13 posted on 10/21/2007 6:38:24 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
Oh no, definitely not a 'gotcha' mentality, honestly.

What it is is that society/culture beat the drum that the pedophilia/child abuse in the Catholic Church was because priests weren't allowed to be married and that caused them to abuse boys.

The reality is that child abuse/pedophilia is a sickness in one's soul - married or not.

15 posted on 10/21/2007 6:47:02 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: RFEngineer

Oh, I know victims of sexual abuse at the hands of a priest and I know the priest who did it. It is serious. I say this as a Catholic who has survived the last few years of scandal. IF we don’t look at all aspects of the problem and address the things we can we are foolish.

For my sons, who were alter boys, I wondered why the priests would want them hanging around the rectory after school until evening mass and when they pestered me and told me the other boys were doing it I said “NO WAY!” In hindsight it was a vatic decision on my part. My boys were spared.


16 posted on 10/21/2007 6:51:22 AM PDT by tioga
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To: RFEngineer
If I might add something: Post #2 about priests and marriage shows me how shallow and facile our thinking has been about the church abuse.

Pedaphiles lurk amongst the married as well as the single. Now what? No simple generalizations will do here. Allowing priests to wed does not eliminate the problem.

How dismissive! See! It's a Catholic problem! Protestants marry! And Pride goeth before the Fall.

The Pointing finger needs to come in our direction. Ours, and anyone's who turned a blind eye, or looked away or pretended not to notice. People KNEW. The kids knew. And nothing happened.

So, society has done an about-face. Let the shrieking begin! But tell me: What have we learned?

23 posted on 10/21/2007 7:26:02 AM PDT by doberville
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