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To: jonathanmo; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Hey Bucko...I didn’t say that EEE would vote FOR Stalin...but any FANATIC that says they wouldn’t vote for Giuliani, even to STOP Stalin from winning is insane. Totally utterly frickin’ insane.

Rooty Toot will do far more damage to America than Stalin ever could have.

741 posted on 10/21/2007 12:36:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Holy cow, Wagglebee. I disagree with you most of the time, but, wow. Giuliani is worse than Stalin. Just wow.

Under the dictatorship of Joseph Stalin, tens of millions of ordinary individuals were executed or imprisoned in labour camps that were little more than death camps. Perceived political orientation was the key variable in these mass atrocities. But gender played an important role, and in many respects the Purge period of Soviet history can be considered the worst gendercide of the twentieth century
http://www.gendercide.org/case_stalin.html


745 posted on 10/21/2007 12:41:39 PM PDT by jonathanmo (So many phobes, so little time...)
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To: jonathanmo
Clearly the most insane, irrational, and idiotic post of the year on FR. You have totally lost your mind.

Add to your list.

"Rooty Toot will do far more damage to America than Stalin ever could have."

How about a little history lesson for the folks wielding jingoistic hyperbole:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/kbank/profiles/stalin/

To ensure his position and to push forward "socialism in one country," he put the Soviet Union on a course of crash collectivization and industrialization. An estimated 25 million farmers were forced onto state farms. Collectivization alone killed as many as 14.5 million people, and Soviet agricultural output was reduced by 25 percent, according to some estimates.

In the 1930s, Stalin launched his Great Purge, ridding the Communist Party of all the people who had brought him to power. Soviet nuclear physicist and academician Andrei Sakharov estimated that more than 1.2 million party members -- more than half the party -- were arrested between 1936 and 1939, of which 600,000 died by torture, execution or perished in the Gulag.

In the wake of the German defeat, the U.S.S.R. occupied most of the countries in Eastern Europe and eventually ensured the installation of Stalinist regimes. Stalin said later to Milovan Djilas, a leading Yugoslav communist, "Whoever occupies a territory also imposes his own social system." He believed that the Americans and the British "imperialism" would clash and eventually "socialism" would triumph.

After initially approving the participation by Eastern European countries in the U.S.-sponsored Marshall Plan (1947), Stalin forbade it. Stalin also sought to gain influence in Germany, though his exact goals remain controversial. Denied access to the western German occupation zones, he agreed to the establishment of the German Democratic Republic (GDR) in October 1949.

Encouraged by Communist victory in the Chinese Civil War and the establishment of the People's Republic of China in October 1949, Stalin gave the green light to North Korean leader Kim Il Sung to attack South Korea in June 1950.

His confrontational foreign policy and his domestic terror regime (the "Stalinist system") had an impact on Soviet society and politics well beyond the dictator's death of natural causes at age 73 on March 5, 1953.


747 posted on 10/21/2007 12:46:26 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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