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To: Jim Robinson

Look. My first wife had malignant melanoma diagnosed when she found out she was pregnant with our second child. She had to undergo emergency radical surgery to try to save her life. We were at a catholic hospital (the same one who watched as my Mother went into cardiac arrest and died.) we had to end that pregnancy to save my wife’s life. Well, she died a horrible death from melanoma spreading to her intestines, spinal chord and brain. Do not, I pray as a conservative person, judge what we had to do. I endured six years of hell.

I do not want Hillary Clinton elected President of the United States. If Rudy Guiliani is the nominee of the Republican Party and can beat Herself the First then I will indeed vote for her. This has struck a nerve with me. I hate abortion too, but it is between a man, his wife, his doctor and his God.


63 posted on 10/20/2007 2:44:35 PM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Shady
Do not, I pray as a conservative person, judge what we had to do. I endured six years of hell.

I know it took a lot for you to type that. I'm very sorry for all of your losses.

110 posted on 10/20/2007 3:13:18 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Shady

First, I am so sorry for the loss of your child and your wife. As someone who has lost several babies to recurrent miscarriages, I hurt for you. :*(

BUT—do you honestly believe the 40+million abortions that have occured since Roe v. Wade became law were “necessary”, the way your child’s loss was? :*(

No. The majority (and some articles I’ve read have said well into the 90 percentile) of abortions are NOT because of situations such as yours, or incest, or rape—what is happening is wholesale genocide of an entire generation of children because of the whims/’choices’ of the woman who became pregnant, probably due to irresponsibility. So many abortions are simply on demand, and not due to true catastrophic reasons like you posted you went through. :*(

The genocide against the unborn must end. It is an abomination in God’s eyes, and it should be an abomination in all of *our* eyes. :*(

Again, condolences on your losses, and prayers for your healing.


153 posted on 10/20/2007 3:26:55 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: Shady

Sorry for what you went through. Many pro-lifers do not have a problem with it in the case of the life of the mother. And yes, in those cases, it should be between the family and the doctors.

However, abortion for other reasons is not acceptable. There are women who kill their unborn children because they’re afraid it would make them look fat. It’s that kind of thinking that the pro-life side is so opposed to. I fully support banning abortion except in cases like what you went through with your first wife.


155 posted on 10/20/2007 3:27:35 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Shady
"I do not want Hillary Clinton elected President of the United States. If Rudy Guiliani is the nominee of the Republican Party and can beat Herself the First then I will indeed vote for her. This has struck a nerve with me. I hate abortion too, but it is between a man, his wife, his doctor and his God."

You are wrong.

It is about first principles enshrined in the Founding Documents of this country!

The pursuit of LIFE, liberty and happiness.

Murder is murder. It does not matter if the human life is outside of the womb or inside.

God expects more of you sir!

159 posted on 10/20/2007 3:31:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Shady
Yours was an exceptional circumstance. Doctors can only work within the realm of the possible and, with the family, have to weigh their options.

More typical is that the pregnancy is not convenient, and in such cases, we cannot innocently withhold judgment.

180 posted on 10/20/2007 3:40:58 PM PDT by FreePoster (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Shady

I am genuinely sorry for your loss. This is not the abortion we are talking about. When the mother’s life is at risk, it is always the difficult choice of the family. Any abortion law always has the exception for when the life of the mother is truly at stake

The vast majority of abortions are for convenience, and should be outlawed. No Christian could judge you for the agonizing decision you made, even if some of us would make a different one. Know that God loves you, your first wife and your unborn child very much. Hang in there!


471 posted on 10/20/2007 7:23:44 PM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Shady
we had to end that pregnancy to save my wife’s life.

The vast majority who are pro-lifers completely understand the choice you and your wife had to make. It is the other 99.9% of abortions we have an issue with.

I hate abortion too, but it is between a man, his wife, his doctor and his God.

The protection of the life of the unborn should be a concern for all of us. If we don't have the guts to stand up for the weakest among us, then frankly, I think our country deserves a Democrat President.

1,023 posted on 10/22/2007 11:37:30 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Shady
I hate abortion too, but it is between a man, his wife, his doctor and his God.

With all due respect, the situation you went through with your wife has as much to do with the abortion issue as an appendectomy has to do with self-mutilation. An abortion that is performed to save a woman's life is always justified, and there has never been an American law (either on the books or proposed) that would have prevented that abortion. Neither has there been any teaching by any church that would require a woman to die in order to avoid aborting.

All other abortions are elective, and the elective killing of a small child is no more a matter between "a man, his wife, his doctor and his God" than it would be if I went next door and shot my neighbor in the head. It's like comparing concealed carry to a shooting spree.

1,202 posted on 10/23/2007 8:49:19 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: Shady

Shady, I am so sorry to hear of the pain and loss that you have endured. May God’s grace be on you and your family every day.


1,204 posted on 10/23/2007 10:34:15 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again. And Always Act.)
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To: Shady

I think there is a huge difference between an abortion if the mother’s life is in danger versus on-demand anytime. Even the Church doesn’t disagree in such circumstances (one life isn’t more valuable than the other).

Just because it should be allowed select rare circumstances doesn’t mean we should endorse someone who supports casual abortions because they don’t want the responsibility.


1,256 posted on 10/25/2007 10:27:25 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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