Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."
Agree.
Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.
‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan
Which CANNOT be done without a pro-life president.
Two: Work on changing hearts and minds. People are not going to rally to your side through being insulted and reviled. The reason abortion has not been changed even a little bit by electoral activism is that the people who keep Members of Congress in office don't want it banned, and they are convinced (rightly) that if they put you in power, that's what you will do.
Congress has NOTHING to do with it, the president appoints Supreme Court justices and at this point they will be the ones to uphold any pro-life legislation which almost certainly would originate in a state legislature.
Actually, we went over 50 MILLION some time in early 2006.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html
And the exact same thing is true if Thompson, or Hunter, or Tancredo is elected.
It’s insane...like they are. The first think I ever learned to type was this sentence: NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN TO COME TO THE AID OF THEIR PARTY.
These aren’t good men..these are fanatics, who throw tantrums when they don’t get their way...and I’ll go further that this is less about the unborn, then the control of women. There...I said it.
Other abortion “counters” I have seen say we aren’t there yet. I’m taking the more conservative estimates. Regardless, if we are there or soon will be, we are wiping out the equivalent of the smallest 25 states of our union in the name of the god “choice.”
If conservatives do nothing, we will be punished. If they actually use their votes to put people in office who support this - we deserve whatever we get.
As a woman, I would say there is nothing more controlling than a mother not allowing the child she conceived to live. Regardless what little inconveniences that you may imagine, NOTHING is more controlling than that.
You’re right, it doesn’t matter what the exact number is. It is still a holocaust which is unparalleled in the history of the civilized world.
Sorry -- ''this is less about the unborn, then the control of' NAZI 'women'
Perhaps. But, we have several possible vacancies in the Supreme Court coming up. If conservatives vote life, then we may actually get someone in there who will vote with the others to revoke Roe. If we vote pocket-book or anti-Hillary or whatever, odds are Roe will never be overturned and the killing will continue.
Well, you need sixty pro-life Senators to confirm such a person, and right now there aren't 35.
But that aside, the day after Roe is overturned, what do you expect will happen?
You are so clearly unhinged, it is frightening!
Do you honestly believe that we are "fanatics" because we don't think that slaughtering 3500 infants a day is acceptable?
Do you honestly think that pro-life "fanatics" are trying to control women by not wanting them to kill their babies? Are parents trying to "control" their children by not allowing them to play in traffic?
Has it escaped your notice that of the 50 MILLION babies slaughtered by your favorite SCOTUS decision, approximately half of them were females?
How can you support women's rights and still support the murder of 25 MILLION women?
We need 60 pro-life and or not extremist liberals to confirm such a person. Pro-life is NOT the extreme position. The majority of Americans claim to support pro-life. Scalia was confirmed. Thomas was confirmed. We just had two (likely pro-life) gentlemen confirmed during the Bush administration. We just need rid of the Reids, Pelosis, Kennedys and folks of their extremist mindset to make progress.
What will happen. The NOW gang will be out hollering bloody murder. And depending upon the eloquence of the argument, pro-life conservatives will have something to use to outlaw abortion in the states. Never should have been a federal thing. Should be a states thing. And, with the exception of a few states, I think the majority would go life.
I thought you promised to leave and not come back.
Ah well. Just one more proof that you can’t trust a liberal. Not that we needed any more evidence.
Thank you, Mr. Stephen A. Douglas.
The unalienable right to life predates and supercedes even the Constitution.
Unalienable rights come from the Creator, not from man. Any man who presumes to abrogate those rights is going to have a lot of explaining to do to Him. Good luck with that.
But, in any case, there is this:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. - The Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
How many times do we go around this...you think one way..I think another. Again, I live in the real world..you don’t. Roe v. Wade will never be overturned...so instead of being angry 24/7, why don’t you do something constuctive and really HELP babies?
Agreed. But since our federal government has basically tossed out the constitution on its ear in this case,and since the Creator is not in the thinking of most politicians, we must rely on the states to undo what has been done.
Frankly, federal or states level period, it never should have been an issue. Murder is murder. Life is not something that we get to decide by majority rule. Unfortunately, we are placed in the situation where that is the case; and, I trust the states to revoke things before I trust the federal government.
Do you think Roe v. Wade is supported by the Constitution? I’d just like to see the issue return to the states where it rightfully belongs.
Typical moral relativist logic, you don't believe in right and wrong.
Roe v. Wade will never be overturned
That's what they said about slavery and it WAS constitutionally protected. And in case it escaped your attention, we only need on more vote on the court.
so instead of being angry 24/7, why don’t you do something constuctive and really HELP babies?
I happen think that trying to keep people like you from killing them is constructive.
Supporting their right to live does help them.
Killing 50 million does not.
We are destroying our future. Europe has already done it. They aren’t producing enough children to sustain their populations. They are being overtaken by Muslims and others who do not have high rates of abortion.
The evil we perpetrate today will come back 1000 fold on our heads tomorrow.
Hate illegal immigration? Get used to it. They are the America of the future as we abort ourselves into oblivious.
That’s the real world.
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