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To: Ol' Sparky
"Then, be prepared for Hillary Clinton to be the next President of United States because millions of conservatives aren't going to vote for a liberal like Giuliani."

Firstly, I take issue with you having the gall to speak for "millions" of conservatives.

Secondly, this conservative will support whomever the Republican nominee is, because this country CANNOT afford another 8 years of a Clinton presidency, and make no mistake, that is what we will have.

Thirdly, unlike you, I believe that Conservatives ALWAYS place their country above themselves. Conservatives are principled, not selfish. So, I believe, and I don't presume to speak for "millions of Conservatives", that TRUE Conservatives will recognize that while Rudy, or Fred, or Mitt or McCain may not be their ideal candidate, agreeing with someone 50% is better than agreeing with them not at all, and will vote to protect our country.

Fourthly, by purpose or design, allowing Hillary Clinton to become POTUS, is despicable and a slap in the face of those in uniform who serve our country. Hillary is unprincipled, you will agree. She serves at the whim of the psychiatric wing of the Democrat party, as represented by Pete Stark, John Murtha, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin. These people do NOT support our troops, they do NOT support the mission and DO support returning our country to the days of talk the talk, and never walk the walk. They will NOT respond to attacks on our country, and WILL support the steady march toward socialism and, inevitable, despotism.

In short, not doing everything humanly possible within the law to avoid a Hillary Presidency, is myopic, selfish and irresponsible. It has nothing to do with "principles" and everything to do with intransigence, selfishness, and irresponsibility.

When I became a citizen of this great country, I pledged allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands and I will do whatever I can, under the Law, to defend my country. Hillary Clinton and her cabal of Leftists will harm my country. So whatever I need to do, under the Law, I will do to ensure that no harm comes to my country.

So, if my choice is Rudy or Her Thighness, I will work day and night to ensure that Rudy becomes POTUS.

25 posted on 10/20/2007 11:18:44 AM PDT by sofaman (Ahmadinejad: Those who attempt to rewrite history are probably planning to repeat it.)
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To: sofaman
Conservatives are principled, not selfish.

As the Gipper so eloquently stated,

"So, it was our Republican Party that gave me a political home. When I signed up for duty, I didn't have to check my principles at the door. And I soon found out that the desire for victory did not overcome our devotion to ideals".
--Ronald Reagan remarks at the Republican National Convention in New Orleans, August 15, 1988.

Many of the Rudy apologists will be 'checking theirs at the door'!!

29 posted on 10/20/2007 11:22:25 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: sofaman
Firstly, I take issue with you having the gall to speak for "millions" of conservatives.

I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance.

A recent Rasmussen poll shows a conservative third-party candidate would garner 27% of the vote:

A new poll from Rasmussen Associates shows just how much a third party candidate might influence the general election. Of the Republicans polled, 27% said that if Rudy Giuliani was the Republican candidate and there was a third party candidate who was backed by Christian conservative leaders, they would vote for the third party candidate.

47 posted on 10/20/2007 11:41:40 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: sofaman
In short, not doing everything humanly possible within the law to avoid a Hillary Presidency, is myopic, selfish and irresponsible.

In short, putting a liberal Republican in the White House is short-sighted, stupid and political suicide for the conservative movement.

That guarantees both parties are left-of-center parties, no conservative President until 2016 and no chance of gaining back Congress for, likely, a decade.

Some people are smart enough to realize the Clinton years were better for conservatives than the Nixon years.

Putting Giuliani in the White House sets the conservative movement back pre-Reagan.

51 posted on 10/20/2007 11:45:19 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: sofaman
Secondly, this conservative will support whomever the Republican nominee is, because this country CANNOT afford another 8 years of a Clinton presidency, and make no mistake, that is what we will have.

Anyone who would support a socialist like Giuliani is not a conservative.

I believe that Conservatives ALWAYS place their country above themselves. Conservatives are principled, not selfish.

Unfortunately the GOP has not practiced what you preach. They have preferred over the years to appease the socialist Democrats by replacing core conservative values with socialism at the expense of what once was its conservative base.

that TRUE Conservatives will recognize that while Rudy, or Fred, or Mitt or McCain may not be their ideal candidate, agreeing with someone 50% is better than agreeing with them not at all, and will vote to protect our country.

That is a cop out. Settling for some socialism only begets more socialism as evident with the current GOP leaders.

Fourthly, by purpose or design, allowing Hillary Clinton to become POTUS, is despicable and a slap in the face of those in uniform who serve our country.

It is a slap in the face of Americans by pretending to be strong on the WOT while at the same time granting amnesty to illegal aliens, any number of which are terrorists.

Hillary is unprincipled, you will agree. She serves at the whim of the psychiatric wing of the Democrat party, as represented by Pete Stark, John Murtha, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin.

Anyone who attempts to pass himself or herself of as a conservative while accepting socialist positions has no principles.

It has nothing to do with "principles" and everything to do with intransigence, selfishness, and irresponsibility.

This is the prevailing attitude of the GOP and precisely the type of thinking that ignoring the importance of maintaining one's principles that has seen the Republican party align itself with the socialist left. The GOP has sacrificed its principles in the hope of including everyone regardless of political ideology in order to expand its base all for the sake of winning.

Hillary Clinton and her cabal of Leftists will harm my country.

That is true of any socialist, including Rudy Giuliani.
204 posted on 10/20/2007 1:58:15 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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