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Thompson Woos 'Values Voters'
U.S. News & World Report ^ | October 19, 2007 | Liz Halloran

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:56:38 PM PDT by Doofer

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To: Doofer

I’m here at the Washington Briefing this morning and was here yesterday. If there’s not a live thread, I’ll start one.

Thompson impressed me. I heard that he should be more fiery, more like Tancredo. Again, I don’t think this is the year for fire from the mouth of the Presidential candidate. This year, we need what the Senator offered: sincerity in a promise to pray for wisdom and to know what to do.

Guiliani is about to appear.


21 posted on 10/20/2007 6:10:24 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Doofer; All

Actually, I think I’ll post at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1913717/posts
GOP Presidential Candidates Woo “Value Voters.”


22 posted on 10/20/2007 6:13:51 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Liar.


23 posted on 10/20/2007 6:55:12 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: Clara Lou

I think you got him with that one! These idiots can read but think we can’t.

There is a major effort afoot to knock FDT off.

I don’t think it will work.


24 posted on 10/20/2007 6:57:26 AM PDT by BillM
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To: Coldwater Creek

Senator Thompson did a great job of describing his beliefs yesterday.

All that I’ve ever heard him say is that he’s against the criminalization and jailing of girls and their families, maybet their doctors. I’m not quite sure why he’s so focused on the criminal penalties in that old 1994 speech. But it was not
pro-choice.” I’ve never heard anything that makes me believe that he’s pro-abortion or accepting.


25 posted on 10/20/2007 7:03:38 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, but Fred just doesn’t live up to the hype. I keep hearing all these great things about him from the Fredheads, but then when I see him in a debate or at a campaign stop — he’s uninspiring, slow-witted, and not a very good public speaker.

Fred is great only in theory. Seeing him in practice can be a cold dash of water.


26 posted on 10/20/2007 8:07:10 AM PDT by Michael A. Velli
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To: Michael A. Velli

I respect your opinion, but the polls disagree with you.


27 posted on 10/20/2007 8:08:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Security * Unity * Prosperity | Fred08.com)
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To: ansel12

What a racist poll !! /s


28 posted on 10/20/2007 8:14:52 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: ansel12

You need to post that on the Romney thread, it will drive certain people bonkers.

“during the desultory days of his first month on the presidential campaign trail.”

So desultory that now Fred is knocking on the number one position.


29 posted on 10/20/2007 8:18:44 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Coldwater Creek

“It is OK for Fred to have changed his mind about abortion three years ago, but not Mitt?”

1) Fred voted anti abortion his whole Senate career, so your statement is false.
2) Mitt was a freaking Bishop and still couldn’t figure it out? Give me a break!


30 posted on 10/20/2007 8:20:45 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Doofer
Late in his speech, Thompson said he's been asked what he'd do in his first 100 days as president. His answer, he said, is "I don't really know—it would depend on the circumstances." "But," he said, "I know what I would do the first hour: Go into the Oval Office, close the door, and pray for the wisdom to do what was right." The crowd was quickly on its feet, warmly applauding; it was his best-received sentiment of the day.

So he doesn't answer the question and finishes up with a cheap 'pop'. Yeah, Fred's real Presidential. If by Presidential you mean not having a plan laid out, evading most questions with simple platitudes that don't mean anything, and saying just enough to get applause in front of the audience.

Considering the last three goobers that have held that office, he'll fit right in...

31 posted on 10/20/2007 8:33:38 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: BillM

[There is a major effort afoot to knock FDT off.

I don’t think it will work.]

Yes. Obviously everyone expects heated debate for candidates. But there is a Mormon contingent that some of us warned about who support Mitt as a fulfillment of prophecy (as though he were God material). For that contingent, it is absolutely impossible to provide any negative facts about Romney that aren’t immediately spun to the contrary. Any positive facts about Fred, who will likely destroy Mitt in the nomination process, must not only be denied but crushed.

The reason this will get so nasty is because it is no longer political but goes to the heart of an effort to proselytize for Mormon beliefs. While many have been quick to deride “anti-Mormon” bigotry, we are about to see the opposite, “pro-Mormon” bigotry.

What most are unaware of though is that the Mormon church is an expert at the task of culling dissenters from its midst, a technique that will now creep into the political arena. One Freeper/Mormon has admitted to having been in 36 excommunications of fellow Mormons, imagine now those techniques applied to the presidential campaign.


32 posted on 10/20/2007 8:34:35 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Coldwater Creek

You keep saying that, it is not true.

This is what he said:

“Thompson, who has two young children with his second wife, told the audience that his political record and his “head” have always been against abortion, but it took seeing the first sonogram of his now 3-year-old daughter, Hayden, to transform him.

‘My heart, he said, “is now fully engaged with my head.’”

His political record and his head have ALWAYS been against abortion. That is not what you said. What he said does not equate to changing his mind.


33 posted on 10/20/2007 8:37:07 AM PDT by daylilly
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To: Michael A. Velli

Michael A. Velli wrote: “...when I see him in a debate or at a campaign stop — he’s... slow-witted.”

Yeah, Fred was so ‘slow-witted’ in the last debate that he made Mitt look like the canned goods that he is:

“Mr Romney: ‘This is like an episode of Law & Order. It has a huge cast, it goes on forever and Fred Thompson turns up at the end,’ he said.

“But quick as a flash, Mr Thompson fired back: ‘And I thought I was the best actor on the stage.’”

“In almost every debate, Mr Romney has managed to deliver a carefully scripted line that is picked up the next day in the media. But this time around, it served to highlight his perceived weakness — that he is a concoction of prepared lines, focus-tested policies and carefully researched responses in search of a truly passionate advocate.”

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/fred-thompson-can-act-but-can-he-debate/2007/10/10/1191695989830.html

And yeah, Fred was so ‘slow-witted’ in the last debate that he bitch-slapped chris Matthews and left the tweety bird speechless:

Before the debate, Mike Allen at The Politico believes that Chris Matthews would be lying in wait to find a “gotcha” moment for Thompson. Sure enough, Tweety asked Fred, “Who is the leader of Canada?” “Harper,” said Thompson, “Prime Minister Harper.”

That’s not “slow-witted.

the there was Fred’s bitch-slapping of Tweety: “Matthews grew so frustrated that he openly critiqued one of Thompson’s answers for being too detailed, which prompted a scolding from Thompson.”

Nope, nothing slow-witted about that.

You’re blowing it out your butt.


34 posted on 10/20/2007 9:10:54 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("I'm not going to dance to anybody's tune." - Fred Thompson)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Not only that, but it seems like he’s trying to deny that he was ever pro-choice, just like Mitt tried to do.


35 posted on 10/20/2007 9:24:58 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Doofer
Late in his speech, Thompson said he's been asked what he'd do in his first 100 days as president. His answer, he said, is "I don't really know—it would depend on the circumstances." "But," he said, "I know what I would do the first hour: Go into the Oval Office, close the door, and pray for the wisdom to do what was right." The crowd was quickly on its feet, warmly applauding; it was his best-received sentiment of the day.

Maybe this sounds good to the folks who want to impose prayer in the public schools but I think public employees like our president should pray on their own time, not as part of their work in office.

The lack of even one agenda item for his first hundred days in office sounds a little haphazard.
36 posted on 10/20/2007 9:39:51 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Sturm Ruger
"But quick as a flash, Mr Thompson fired back: ‘And I thought I was the best actor on the stage."

I thought I was the only one that thought Fred got off a great retort there, something that showed a some real wit, not just a pre-canned jokeline like what Romney offered. Fred looked good there, kind of reminded me of how Reagan behaved in public. It was one of the better moments in that debate.
37 posted on 10/20/2007 9:46:14 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: billbears
So he doesn't answer the question and finishes up with a cheap 'pop'. Yeah, Fred's real Presidential.

He doesn't ansxwer the question because he's not Psycic, nor stupid like Nancy Pelosi's first 100 day prediction. Does he have a DNC congress or RNC? Are we at war with Iran? What are on Mitts and Julies first 100 day plans?

38 posted on 10/20/2007 10:23:03 AM PDT by Bommer (“He that controls the spice controls the universe!” (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!))
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To: Sturm Ruger
All you've pointed out is that Fred had two semi-respectable comebacks over the course of the entire debate. Two semi-bright moments in an otherwise droll performance.

And this is supposed to change my mind about the guy? LOL.

39 posted on 10/20/2007 10:28:31 AM PDT by Michael A. Velli
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To: Coldwater Creek
It is OK for Fred to have changed his mind about abortion three years ago, but not Mitt?

Maybe because Fred, when given the opportunity, has always voted against abortion?. Meanwhile Mitt, while posessing the power of the Line Item Veto; failed to veto the relevent passages of his "Romneycare" bill which provided for taxpayer funded abortion on demand and also included a seat for Planned Parenthood on the board of Governors in 2005?

40 posted on 10/20/2007 10:47:23 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo
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