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AVS is one site that has been openly chastised in print... chastised for the bias and schilling for HD DVD. Threads covering any contentious issue are nothing more than a pack of attack dogs trolling for their next victim. Studio employees have been banned from participating there... Sony employees have given up on the site... hostility and outright lying are the norm. One Encoder for Warner lost his job over an AVS thread... and MS recently limited amir's presence there.

Bitrate means nothing? It means that difficult scenes that require more bandwidth without introducing digital artifacts... can be varied intermittently to a very high level compared to that available with HD DVD. There are examples of artifacting with VC1 hand tuned by amir’s group. Recent Universal offerings show how HD DVD performs when amir’s group is not hand tuning the encodes.

When you are into original intent as to the directors eye... when you understand and appreciate film grain as utilized as a tool (28 Days After and 28 Weeks After are examples), when high action motion and exploding gas bombs go off... 49mbs ensures that we will not see edge tearing or tiling or morais. VC1 hand tuned encodes use a filtering technique that actually softens some of the data... smoothing out problem areas... problems introduced due to bandwidth limitations. If bandwidth doesn’t matter... we should still be using 8 gig DVD and 6mbs max. You HD DVD fans must define the "Look of Perfect" as, “good enough”.

BTW... How do Spiderman 1, 2, and 3 look on HD DVD? Oh yeah... that is another deadly weakness of HD DVD... No Snow White... No Mickey Mouse... at least you do have Transformers to watch... but then it is a truncated offering... but you can buy Transformer marketed products online with that nifty interactivity thing.

I hope you enjoy surprises... I think you will be surprised by this time next year. We will have to wait and see.

LLS

You can find HUNDREDS of advocates for BOTH SIDES at AVS.

I have BOTH formats and enjoy both.

YOU ARE A BLU-RAY CHEERLEADER, splitting the same hairs, parsing the same nonsense. It’s people like you who ruin AVS, it used to be a great forum, now all of a sudden there’s 1000 technical geniuses.

Spiderman movies aren’t very good but remember I OWN BLU-RAY too, I’m not stuck watching only one format or arguing for one format LIKE YOU.

Yes, bitrate means nothing, not every film is coded the same way, your argument is totally worthless.

You, (and the HD-DVD fanboys like you) make me sick, people like you have brought down the AVS forum to the level of video game fan boys. It’s not a discusssion about currrent/future capabilities and enjoyment of the format, it’s silly fanboys with their silly rallying cries of “Good Enough” etc., PATHETIC

I can afford both formats and they both have delivered amazing home movie experiences. I want blu-ray AND HD-DVD to get better and better to entertain ME.

How someone can be a big hd movie fan and not have both is puzzling to me. Maybe some of you guys were never on a team sport or something that only now do you take up arms. If you love video games how can you love Playstation and hate X-Box????? It’s just as childish. This is what people like you have reduced home theatre to, congratulations.