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Progressive Ins. Says Lying Its Way Into Church Support Group To Dig Up Dirt Was "Reasonable"
consumerist.com ^ | WED OCT 17 2007 | BY BEN POPKEN

Posted on 10/18/2007 12:17:43 AM PDT by rvoitier

In insurance land, it seems, things can be morally wrong, yet legally reasonable.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: liberal; lyingliberals; peterlewis; progressiveinsurance
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Isn't the head of this insurance company a big lib/socialist? I seem to remember reading something to that effect. Any help to verify would be appreciated because every time I see their commericals I wonder.

1 posted on 10/18/2007 12:17:47 AM PDT by rvoitier
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To: rvoitier

Yes, the scumfilth *is* a big time DemoPervert crook.
He’s a pusher/funder if the Deathocrat Death Cult agenda.


2 posted on 10/18/2007 12:22:18 AM PDT by DGHoodini
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To: rvoitier

I recall that as well. I could be wrong but I think that’s why the company is called progressive.


3 posted on 10/18/2007 12:23:11 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: rvoitier
Any help to verify would be appreciated because every time I see their commericals I wonder.

Absolutely true. Peter Lewis is joined at the hip with George Soros as a major contributor to far Left causes. Google his name and you'll get several hits including this one: Peter Lewis

4 posted on 10/18/2007 12:29:47 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: rvoitier

here you go:
In his book “Culture Warrior” Fox News Channel host Bill O’Reilly names Peter Lewis, billionaire founder and chairman of Progressive Insurance, as the number two funder and promoter of liberal causes, alongside billionaire investor George Soros.
O’Reilly calls those pushing the liberal agenda “social progressives”; and while Soros is known for financially backing them through what the author calls “smear sites” like MoveOn.org, he says Lewis has been nearly as influential, thanks to the dividends of more than a billion dollars worth of Progressive stock. Randy Sharp of the American Family Association feels the problem is Lewis’s use of that money for causes like legalizing drug use, and promoting abortion and euthanasia. “The profits from that stock go directly toward sponsoring these kinds of liberal causes and defeating specific candidates who share a conservative view with the majority of Americans,” Sharp says, as well as toward moving the nation toward an open, globalistic society that reflects the social and moral values of atheism that Soros follows. Lewis once made an $8.5-million contribution to the American Civil Liberties Union, the AFA spokesman notes. For those pro-family customers who do not want to support such causes, Sharp recommends they cancel their Progressive Insurance policies, which fund Lewis’s channeling of money to secular progressives.


5 posted on 10/18/2007 12:29:57 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: visualops

Using “suckers” to fund progressive’s ideas. Shouldn’t there be a law against this?


6 posted on 10/18/2007 12:32:15 AM PDT by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Turn Home Depot's into the prisons to hold the illegals!.)
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To: visualops; Bernard Marx
Thanks guys.

visualops, yeah, he even calls it Progressive! At least he's out of the closet.

7 posted on 10/18/2007 12:46:20 AM PDT by rvoitier (What fools play for the AP National Title?)
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To: rvoitier
Peter Lewis is the retired Chairman of Progressive Insurance, and supports socialist causes to the tune of millions. He owns more than $1 billion in stock in Progressive Insurance.

I wouldn't buy Progressive Insurance on a bet, even if it "saved me 50% or more".....

Who would knowingly support sex deviates or their enablers?

"The 70-year-old Lewis holds the distinction of being the second-largest donor during the ’04 election cycle to the non-party groups known as “527s” (after a section of the tax code that permits these huge donations). In fact, Lewis donated nearly $23 million to such organizations, including $16 million to the Joint Victory Campaign (created by combining the three largest 527s dedicated to President Bush’s defeat), $2.9 million to America Coming Together (ACT), and $2.5 million to Move On.Org. He is a close friend and associate of the billionaire financier George Soros."

"Lewis became the largest single donor to the American Civil Liberties Union. But, as with many of his charitable donations, there were some minor “strings attached” to his $7 million gift: namely, that $5 million be earmarked for the ACLU’s drug-policy litigation project, which challenges current laws dealing with drug testing in schools and the medicinal use of marijuana. Since 1996, prior to the recent Supreme Court decision calling such laws into question, seven states have passed ballot initiatives permitting the medical use of marijuana."

"Along with his Bush-bashing, financial reports show that Lewis’s favorite causes in 2004 included decriminalizing marijuana, gay rights and the environment. He donated $485,000 to the Marijuana Policy Project, $117,220 to the pro-gay Stonewall Democrats United, $100,000 to the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund and $100,000 to the Sierra Club. The cause of marijuana legalization particularly interests Lewis, who openly acknowledges using marijuana and hashish and was arrested in New Zealand in 2000 for possessing them."

8 posted on 10/18/2007 1:12:43 AM PDT by traditional1 (GO TRIBE !)
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To: rvoitier

Why is it that anything named “Progressive” is hardly that at all?


9 posted on 10/18/2007 1:20:21 AM PDT by hawkeye101 (When in my darkest hour, your thoughts do me no good, but PRAYERS are greatly appreciated!)
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To: rvoitier

IIRC According to a recent news report, Progressive is one of the insurance companies selling auto insurance to illegal unlicensed aliens. I’ll bet the stockholders and current policy holders are unhappy about that. Watch claims and premiums start to soar.


10 posted on 10/18/2007 3:49:32 AM PDT by P3_Acoustic
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To: rvoitier
This story headline seems misleading. The story actually involves an insurance investigation. An insurance lawyer I know hires detectives to investigate all kinds of injury claims. You would not believe the people who say they are injured and want a monetary settlement yet can lift furniture, exercise, etc. I guess you could call it ‘digging the dirt’, but this happens all the time. It just happened in a church support group. I remember one time where a PI went to a member’s health club and joined her aerobics group to film this supposedly injured woman doing aerobics. Flame away.
11 posted on 10/18/2007 3:53:47 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: rvoitier

Thanks for the post.


12 posted on 10/18/2007 4:08:21 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Jesus is real, He will never fail...I will serve him now, and throughout all eternity! ))
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To: sportutegrl
Good for you! I can't stand the creeps who drive up my insurance costs with fraud. Go get 'em wherever they are. There's NO sanctuary for robbers and thieves.
13 posted on 10/18/2007 4:22:50 AM PDT by bvw
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To: rvoitier

They are better than you, don’tcha know.

Better and more compassionate.

More caring. More sensitive.


14 posted on 10/18/2007 4:52:23 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: rvoitier

The word progressive as currently used means far left. True progressives will become the next rank of National socialists.


15 posted on 10/18/2007 5:52:06 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: hawkeye101
Why is it that anything named “Progressive” is hardly that at all?

For the same reason "People's Republics" never are!

16 posted on 10/18/2007 6:02:40 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: JimRed; lightingguy
The word progressive as currently used means far left. True progressives will become the next rank of National socialists.

I'm currently reading David Horowitz's biography Radical Son. When he was a kid growing up in Queens in the 40's and every single one of his parents' friends were avowed communists, "progressive" was the term they used to mask their views. Everything was referred to as progressive rather than communist or socialist as a means to avoid unwanted attention during the Cold War. He even attended a party school called Sunnyside Progressive School from the time he was 18 months old. (When Hillary touts universal preschool, do we wonder why?)

By calling herself a modern progressive and expressing the desire to return to what it used to mean (as she said in that youtube debate), she invokes full blown marxism.

Here's the quote from the debate -

"You know, (liberal) is a word that originally meant that you were for freedom … that you were willing to stand against big power and on behalf of the individual," she said at the CNN/YouTube debate. "Unfortunately, in the last 30, 40 years, it has been turned up on its head, and it's been made to seem as though it is a word that describes big government, totally contrary to what its meaning was in the 19th and early 20th century." She continued: "I prefer the word 'progressive,' which has a real American meaning, going back to the progressive era at the beginning of the 20th century. I consider myself a modern progressive."

According to David Horowitz, what the term meant at the beginning of the 20th century was flat out communism. Horowitz also says that in the sixties, the real radical "progressives" disavowed themselves of mainline liberals, looked upon them with contempt for being too centrist. So when Hillary distances herself from the term liberal in favor of the term progressive, as she does in the above quote, she's doing the very same thing.

I realize this isn't really news - most of us know she leans further left than she usually lets on, but we need to keep firmly in mind how radical she really is. Despite her rhetoric, she is telling us EXACTLY who she is and what she stands for.

17 posted on 10/18/2007 6:38:59 AM PDT by agrace
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She continued: "I prefer the word 'progressive,' which has a real American meaning, going back to the progressive era at the beginning of the 20th century.

Back in the 20s and 30s, the Communists described themselves with the word, "progressive". It aptly applies today to the liberals. When a lib corrected me calling her a liberal, and used the word "progressive", I let her know why that was also a good label.

18 posted on 10/18/2007 6:49:14 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: agrace
agrace,

Thanks for that insight. It's very informative.

As Johnny Carson would say, "I did not know that."

19 posted on 10/18/2007 7:49:49 AM PDT by rvoitier (What fools play for the AP National Title?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Remembe this guy?


20 posted on 10/18/2007 7:50:34 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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