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To: Sola Veritas

Dobson doesn’t like Thompson, Mitt and obviously Rudy.

Somehow I get the feeling that if he were around 2,000 years ago he and people like him wouldn’t even have endorsed Jesus Christ (R-Nazareth).

Jesus was apolitical.

Some biblical scholars believe that the reason that Judas betrayed Jesus was because he refused to use his power to drive the Romans out of the Holy Land. Judas was a member of a militant group prior to becoming one of the Lord’s disciples. He saw the miracles. According to this thinking, Judas thought that if he had Jesus arrested He would have no choice but to use his power to save himself and smite the Romans.

Instead Jesus told Pontius Pilate: “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and render unto God that which is His.”


9 posted on 10/17/2007 11:09:45 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Sola Veritas
Jesus was apolitical.

Well, you're very next comment brings into question the absolute nature of what you just said above:

Some biblical scholars believe that the reason that Judas betrayed Jesus was because he refused to use his power to drive the Romans out of the Holy Land. Judas was a member of a militant group prior to becoming one of the Lord’s disciples.

So, some scholars, then believe that a full 1/6 of the disciples Jesus chose were Zealots (Simon the Zealot being the other). Did Zealots as insurrectionists believe it was OK to murder Roman soldiers? (Yes) So, in another words, it would be like Jesus coming today and choosing...well, make the obvious connections. It doesn't mean Jesus embraced Zealot philosophy; but it does mean that Jesus wasn't afraid to be linked with a certain political party--even if only by association.

In addition, Romans 13 clearly outlines that Jesus' early church thought of authorities as "ministers"--not "Ministers" in a parochial sense, but as ones who also serve God but in a non-ecclesiastical venue. (IOW, politics is closer to ministry than we think...hence European governmental titles that still are "Minister of...")

On top of that, tell me, who did Jesus compliment in the highest regard? (John the Baptist...see Matthew 11:11) When it came to discussing incumbent office-holders, was John the Baptist exactly silent? (Hardly. He lost his neck to one). Likewise, Jesus told a certain "authority" that he would have no "authority" had it not been given to him from above. He wasn't 100% averse to speaking truth to such men.

So, was John the Baptist apolitical? Nope.

Instead Jesus told Pontius Pilate: “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and render unto God that which is His.”

OK, is abortion a politically-sanctioned act? (Yes) Who do pre-born babies belong to, the government or the Creator? Did the government establish the rite of marriage? (No) Therefore is it up to government to redefine this, or does the institution of marriage belong to God who created it in the garden for Adam & Eve?

Sometimes ya gotta be "political" just to keep the politicos' hands off what does not belong to Caesar.

13 posted on 10/18/2007 9:33:05 AM PDT by Colofornian
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