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To: socal_parrot

paragraphed version:

It pains me how we as black people love to drag our brother down.

We have developed a crabs in the bucket mentality. We can’t stand to see our brother succesful. We say we have overcome, but the effects of dissension bought about by slavery is very apparent.

Now we have reached a new low by bashing our black pastors. Just because we throw one white guy in the mix dosen’t change a thing.

Listening to The Micheal Baisden Show yesterday I was apalled at how he was degrading our black pastors. What in your right mind would have you call a man of God a punk, because of his opinion.

He also had an author on his show who wrote a book titled Snakes in the Pulpit. W[h]ere he says that mega church pastors are false prophets and they are all about the money. He is fixated on Pastor T. D. Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Eddie Long, and he threw in Joel Olsten for good measure.

Every time I hear these silly comments I know they have not read the Bible or understand it. If they have they would know time after time in the Bible God made men who sought sfter Him and followed His commamdments rich. They obviously have not heard of Abraham, Solomon, Moses, and David just to name a few distinct one there are many others.

Also in the same Bible you see where God takes away the wealth from the men who stray and do wickedness. God is still doing the same thing today. He builds up those who are in right standing with Him and he brings low those who get out of His will. God tell us in Psalm 105:15 Touch not my anointed and do My prophets no harm. This warning is very plain do not mess with men of God. We need to heed the warning.

These men of God (Jakes, Dollar, Long, Olsten) are in the positions they are in because of God. What most people don’t know is that they are not paid by member tithes. They make th[eir] money from their books and tapes (dosen’t that sound fimilar Baisden and Armstrong).

God tells us in Deuteronomy 8:18 that He is the one who gives us power to get wealth. We are not upset at men that run all these major corporations who are rich or all of the sport personalities that are rich. We are the ones who helped them get that way. So why is there so much anger toward pastors? Who said a man of God should not be rich? God didn’t nor did His Son Jesus.

Jesus tells us in John 10:10 (Amp.) that he came so we may enjoy life and have it in abundance(to the full, till it overflows). That does not sound to me that we are suppose[d]to be living in poverty. Jesus also says in Matthew 11:15 to a question if He was the Messiah, of the miracles he has done,but most importantly He said the Gospel is preached to the poor. He is telling you poverty is not your lot anymore, because of Him you can now live the good life.

Think people, what pastor can help you if their broke[?] How can a broke church help your community[?] Michael Baisden (along with callers) really took offense about Pastor Dollar being in a rap video. The title of the video is Welcome to Atlanta. He was in the video just standing in front of his church. Pastor Dollar is a prominent figure in Atlanta. When you think of all the prominent people in Atlanta you also think of Pastor Dollar. They made it sound like girls were shaking their booty on him and he was cussing.

What they don’t know is a lot of those rappers go to his church. What they don’t know is that some of those rappers have ask[ed] him to let them use his cars in their videos.

It is easy to be on the outside looking in, but what about the truth[?] When they were saying Pastor Dollar is all about the money I did not hear one mention of the di[e]sel trucks full of food and supplies that went to the people of hurricane Katrina. I didn’t hear one mention of all the homes he has built for families in povery stricken countries. I didn’t hear one mention of all the homes and cars he has brought for members of his church or all of the homes and cars he has paid off for his members.

All of the those Pastors they are targeting are doing the same thing. They have done so much for people that it is ridiculous. They are using a Law of the Bible (sowing and reaping) You get back what you give out.

Maybe you should ask all of those people if they have a problem with them being rich. Blacks hating on blacks when will it stop? Will we continue to be jealous of our brothers just because they are making it? Let God be the judge.

Think people, if these men of God were as wicked as some men want us to believe God would not let their ministries continue to thrive.


8 posted on 10/17/2007 12:08:13 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (United Methodist Church: Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Legs, Open to Anything)
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To: mbarker12474
You asked...”Think people, if these men of God were as wicked as some men want us to believe God would not let their ministries continue to thrive.”

Yes!
Absolutely!
Remember how many bad Judges God let rule over His people?
Remember how many bad Pharisees God let rule over them?
Remember how many Tammy and Jim Bakers, Jim Jones, Jehovah's witness teachers, Paul Crouch, Benny Hinn, benny Hill, a bottle of bennys...wanna hear more names?...

...want me to continue?

I don’t know about Creflo Dollar (though the name certainly has me HIGHLY suspicious already), but that Joey Olstien has no scriptural basis for his brand of feelgoodism. 29.5 minutes of heal-thy-self-with-good-thoughts-because-youre-worth-it-and-just-need-to-love-yourself-some-more! and .5 minutes of “Oh...and God loves you too!” That is a false gospel Sir!

Jesus said; “If anyone wants to be My disciple, he must
DENY HIMSELF
PICK UP HIS CROSS
and FOLLOW ME”

Olstien preaches
love thyself as exalted
build self worth
..oh...and God loves you too.

The kingdom of God has no room for SELF.

But the good news about your post is that your conscience seems to be pricked. That is the work of the Holy Spirit sir! And He just might be telling you to grab the remote, push the power button and get out of your house this Sunday to a real church where the Word is taught and where you can find a fellowship of believers. Where you can love and be loved.

Church TV is NEVER gonna be a substitute!

15 posted on 10/17/2007 12:31:06 PM PDT by woollyone (tazers are the 21st century version of the rusty bed frame, car battery, transformer & clamps)
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