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'Black people are less intelligent than whites', claims DNA pioneer (James Watson)
Daily Mail ^ | 10/17/07

Posted on 10/17/2007 1:36:52 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
...Especially in the United States, almost from birth, African descendants are bombarded with stupid comments... If they are brought up to believe they are stupider, uglier, etc. than their European descended counterparts, is it even remotely surprising that they do not succeed in society? (rhetorical--unless you're 'blind,' it isn't all that surprising at all). ...

To this point, I was struck when watching the movie "Ray" just how good and successful a businessman Ray Charles was, IMO because he was literally insulated from the visual thing by his blindness. So he analyzed his career on par with any other musicians' — if [white] musicians were touring Europe, that's what he would do. He couldn't see the eyeball rolling of his managers, and just insisted on it, and was wildly successful in Europe as well as here. He broke color barriers constantly, again, I believe, because he just couldn't "see" them.

201 posted on 10/17/2007 8:28:05 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Shame on you, most hammers can hit the nail on the head, which is more than those two knuckle heads can do. I apologize to all hammers for you and especially blue grass brands.


202 posted on 10/17/2007 8:31:49 AM PDT by usslsm51
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To: tutstar; Nightshift

ping...


203 posted on 10/17/2007 8:32:46 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: CatoRenasci
Thanks for providing the most cogent posts in this thread.

The tyranny of political correctness and the specter of being labeled a "racist" has caused many to completely ignore empirical evidence for fear of it taking them to a place they don't want to go.

I, for one, want an investigation and empirical study of why, with the retirement of Jason Sehorn, there are no white cornerbacks in the NFL (/sarcasm).

204 posted on 10/17/2007 8:34:13 AM PDT by True-Stu
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Even if I thought it was true, I would not have said it...

In the end it comes down to inviduals. I work for a black manager - he’s the best boss I’ve ever had. I’ve soldiered with exceptional black officers and NCOs.

Each person deserves to judged as individual. You only use stereotypes or blanket judgements when you lack enough info to make an individual judgment and don’t have the time and / or inclination to gather data.


205 posted on 10/17/2007 8:35:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Send this along to Al Gore along with the names of actors who’ve been forced to sell their awards to make ends meet when their beauty and fame have left them.

It could turn out that his two biggest prizes will be his two worst memories.


206 posted on 10/17/2007 8:40:25 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Star Traveler
It's always seemed common sense to me that genetics determine the potential and nurture determines how much of that potential is used. But, in no case can nurture exceed the genetic potential.

207 posted on 10/17/2007 8:52:10 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

The guy should have said that whites are less athletic and have smaller dingies than blacks. Of course, there would be no outcry over these remarks.


208 posted on 10/17/2007 8:53:49 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: CatoRenasci

To me this is the same as a ‘true believer’ in creationism not buying data that conflicts and most likely invalidates the theory entirely.

If it’s true, on average, that blacks are disadvantaged intellectually I’m not sure what can really be done. Remove voting rights? That would affect the smart ones unfairly. IQ tests to vote? That would put too much stock into IQ tests and leave endless room for USSR style oppression.


209 posted on 10/17/2007 8:54:53 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: TigerLikesRooster
er.....People in general are stupid, and I've found the people who are not stupid are pretty much distributed evenly amongst the races and genders.
210 posted on 10/17/2007 8:56:06 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I've always thought that there is a difference between intellect and intelligence. I have know people in both end of the intellect spectrum, and I have see high intellects make the most unintelligent choices imaginable and vice versa.

I think the old man is talking about intellect.

211 posted on 10/17/2007 8:56:08 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
er.....People in general are stupid, and I've found the people who are not stupid are pretty much distributed evenly amongst the races and genders.
212 posted on 10/17/2007 8:56:16 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What kind of “testing” helped him make this determination in Africa? Could cultural bias and an assumption of western style education have played a role?


213 posted on 10/17/2007 8:57:32 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: wideminded
Dear wideminded,

The graph in post 27 looks about like the graphs I’ve seen over the decades (I used to be in clinical psychology - my particular area of interest was psychological testing). Typically, the delta between white and black populations comes out to be about a standard deviation - 15 IQ points on most IQ tests.

An IQ of 80 - 90 is usually thought of as "dull normal," or in other words, pretty much average with maybe a little bit of a lag.


sitetest

214 posted on 10/17/2007 8:58:25 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I just recently read another study where actual testing was done, in the native countries,that came out consistent with what our eyes show us.

Asians have an average IQ of 110, whites 100 and blacks 87

The author pointed out that looking at the development in the countries of origin substantiate his findings. Africa is still primitive except where Europeans have come in and brought technology like digging wells and electricity. He attributes that to a lower mean IQ.

But like in all things the mean or average is not the top or the bottom.
There are whites with IQs of 60 and IQs of 150.

So in every race there will be exceptional people and very slow or dull people .


215 posted on 10/17/2007 8:59:06 AM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sounds about right to me. Jesse Jackson, get into the line on the left. Al Sharpton, get in there behind Jesse. Sign up for the brain implant..


216 posted on 10/17/2007 9:01:38 AM PDT by hgro (Jerry Riversd)
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To: William Terrell
It's always seemed common sense to me that genetics determine the potential and nurture determines how much of that potential is used. But, in no case can nurture exceed the genetic potential.

Twin studies tend to support this.

I think we are all born with a maximum and a minimum IQ, the difference between them is nurture and experience .

217 posted on 10/17/2007 9:01:49 AM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, in the scope of history, I guess this is a less offensive remark. There was a time when the black race was considered less than human by so-called intelligent people.


218 posted on 10/17/2007 9:04:39 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: TigerLikesRooster

‘Black people are less intelligent than whites’, claims DNA pioneer.”

Yeah, right.

Next he will be claiming that homosexuality is genetic.

Idiot.


219 posted on 10/17/2007 9:09:27 AM PDT by Reddy (VOTE CONSERVATIVE in '08!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Intelligence does not always equate to common sense.

That is evident from the political donations you have made in the past to smucks such as Queen Hillary Clinton, Little Tommy Harking both considered to be far left thinkers.

Personally good Doctor your choice of who you donate money tells me a lot about your lack of common sense.

220 posted on 10/17/2007 9:13:22 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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