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To: .cnI redruM; P-Marlowe; xzins; Jason Kauppinen
The GOP will need to start punishing people who claim to represnt 'true conservatism' to the detrimate of everyone lese in the party.

That is a disturbing thought - Stalinesque even.

George Washington on the dangers of political parties:

Washington despised the idea of political associations, formed in such a way as to pit one group of citizens against another. In his farewell speech in 1796 he said:

[While speaking on the subject -- The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government.]

"All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They [political parties] serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels, and modified by mutual interests.

"However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines, which have lifted them to unjust dominion."

Washington went on to say,

"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty."

9 posted on 10/16/2007 9:33:25 AM PDT by Terirem ("As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books" St. John of Damascus)
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To: Terirem
The only problem with that, is that we would be unilateral in our disarmament. I haven’t heard anyone at Kos or MyDD suggest anything similar. The Dems will remain an extremely disciplined and united machine. Unlike us, they know what their goals are....
11 posted on 10/16/2007 9:35:28 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Columbia U has fewer ROTC cadets than Iran has practicing homosexuals.)
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To: Terirem

Amen. Pushing people out of the Republican party because someone decides they’re not “true conservatives” is like a circle of wolves hungrily eyeing each other and devouring themselves one by one.


19 posted on 10/16/2007 10:24:04 AM PDT by Goodness
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