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Bush's McClellan
IBD ^ | October 15, 2007

Posted on 10/15/2007 5:17:15 PM PDT by Kaslin

Iraq War: The former commander of coalition forces in Iraq has falsely characterized the Iraq War as an endless "nightmare" and blames politicians. Is this the sour grapes of a failed McClellan shown up by a U.S. Grant?


Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, who headed forces in Iraq in 2003 and 2004, was scathing in a speech to military journalists last Friday. He called the Iraq War "a nightmare with no end in sight."

The politicians in charge of our strategy were "incompetent," "inept" and so "derelict in the performance of their duty" as to deserve a court martial had they been wearing the U.S. uniform.

What timing! The U.S., in fact, now winning the war — so convincingly that congressional Democrats will talk about anything but the issue that put them in control. Consider some of the progress:

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; dod; iraq; ricardosanchez
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1 posted on 10/15/2007 5:17:16 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

SHUT UP AND FIGHT SANCHEZ!!! I am DISGUSTED by the DISLOYALTY of past Bush appointees!! These men and women have been like CHILDREN that just can;t WAIT to say something bad!! I’ll say it again... STFU and FIGHT SANCHEZ!!!! Maybe it’s part YOUR fault the mess we are in!


2 posted on 10/15/2007 5:20:36 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Kaslin

“What timing” indeed. Ain’t it a little late for him to be McClellan? He would have had to run for president in ‘04 for that to be a good analogy. Kerry tried to fill the bill but that didn’t work out so good either.


3 posted on 10/15/2007 5:21:25 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Kaslin

“What timing” indeed. Ain’t it a little late for him to be McClellan? He would have had to run for president in ‘04 for that to be a good analogy. Kerry tried to fill the bill but that didn’t work out so good either.


4 posted on 10/15/2007 5:21:30 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

The author is talking about George B. McClellan from the civil war, not Presiden’t Bush’s former Press secretary


5 posted on 10/15/2007 5:29:15 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin
All you guys need to go to Rush’s site and read today's transcript or download his podcast. He played the entire Sanchez statement... and this part was just part of the overall statement that the dims used to distort what he said. He basically called out the media and the dim party for sedition... said they aided the enemy and comforted the enemy. He also released another statement that Brit Hume cover tonight... and he said that much of what he said pertained to dated material. All is not as it seems.

LLS

6 posted on 10/15/2007 5:41:35 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

He could have given Pericles’ Funeral Oration in the remainder of his speech and it still wouldn’t make up for these comments.


7 posted on 10/15/2007 5:45:42 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: LibLieSlayer

I know, General Sanchez was slamming the media and rightly so, but it was ignored by MSM. they only picked out what they wanted


8 posted on 10/15/2007 5:45:47 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Kaslin

Well they do work for the dnc. That is far too true to be funny any longer.

LLS


9 posted on 10/15/2007 5:46:27 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: vbmoneyspender

If you get the time... go read Rush’s transcript. These media operatives are good man... the sentences on either side of these words soften their intention.

LLS


10 posted on 10/15/2007 5:47:54 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Kaslin

What a coinkydink. So was I. It just so happens that I know a little about that event. And when I don’t know something about it, I just ask my wife because she knows everything.


11 posted on 10/15/2007 5:55:43 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Kaslin

Still shaking my head on how you figured I was talking about anyone other than General George Brinton McClellan.


12 posted on 10/15/2007 5:57:18 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I think I've read most of the speech and in particular the parts where he criticizes the media - but those comments are overshadowed by his comments regarding the conduct of the war. And simply put, his comments regarding the conduct of war are unbelievable.

For example, he says in the speech that no grand strategy has been in place since the war started. Apparently, as the general leading the war, he is unaware that Al Qaeda's goal is to recreate the Caliphate and that our grand strategy has been to checkmate that objective by creating a Shiite-based democracy in the heart of the old Caliphate. As such, Sanchez is the only commanding general I have ever heard of who wasn't aware of the grand strategy he was supposed to be putting into effect. Beyond that, if Sanchez really did believe there was no grand strategy to combat Al Qaeda then he should have resigned -- imnmediately. I mean how much more ridiculous can it get for a commanding general to contend that the effort he was in charge of had no strategy?

13 posted on 10/15/2007 6:06:42 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Past Your Eyes

Go back and reread your own post


14 posted on 10/15/2007 6:07:08 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Are you sure you wasn’t talking about Scott McClellan?


15 posted on 10/15/2007 6:15:53 PM PDT by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Ain’t it a little late for him to be McClellan? He would have had to run for president in ‘04 for that to be a good analogy.

He would also need to have been a former crooked business associate. McClellan and Lincoln conspired to defraud the Illinois Central out of $5000 once.

16 posted on 10/15/2007 7:16:39 PM PDT by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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I know, General Sanchez was slamming the media and rightly so, but it was ignored by MSM. they only picked out what they wanted.

I got the impression that Sanchez was trying the Michael Scheuer gambit. Scheuer goes on Fox News and conservative radio talk shows, and slams Clinton's anti-terrorism policy (or lack thereof). Then he runs off to the Drive-by Media, and lays the lumber to President Bush. Guess that works, Sanchez has now been able to get his "message" (i.e. that he was treated badly) out to Liberal and conservative audiences alike.

17 posted on 10/15/2007 8:53:35 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: Kaslin
When politicians asked, Sanchez apparently told them he had enough troops — which seems not to have been true. And the Abu Ghraib prison scandal took place when he was in charge. "The war in general got out of control under his watch," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. And John McCain, R-Ariz., ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Sanchez should have spoken out when he was in the driver's seat in Iraq.

20/20 hindsight, which now, at the point of victory, is defeatist second-guessing. Yet when he was there - IN CHARGE - he didn't demand what HIS TROOPS NEEDED. If he thought this then, he was derilict in duty for not asking. If he felt strongly enough about his leadership, he even could have resigned. If he changed his mind, well, then, he was overpromoted in the first place.

Either way he's got a serious case of irrespeonsible finger pointing.

18 posted on 10/15/2007 8:57:57 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: Past Your Eyes

“What timing” indeed. Ain’t it a little late for him to be McClellan? He would have had to run for president in ‘04 for that to be a good analogy.”

In that case, Wes Clark was running for the spot, the hero of the serbian bombing campaign. 1,000 civilians, 1 ChiCom embassy, 0 genocides averted. Him and the saudi ninjas he was going to recruit to catch bin laden.

“Kerry tried to fill the bill but that didn’t work out so good either.”

no it didn’t.


19 posted on 10/15/2007 9:00:37 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: vbmoneyspender

“As such, Sanchez is the only commanding general I have ever heard of who wasn’t aware of the grand strategy he was supposed to be putting into effect. Beyond that, if Sanchez really did believe there was no grand strategy to combat Al Qaeda then he should have resigned — imnmediately. I mean how much more ridiculous can it get for a commanding general to contend that the effort he was in charge of had no strategy?”

Suddenly a BIG LIGHT BULB GOES ON in my head, which has been trying to figure out why so much in Iraq went right in Mar-Apr 2003, and so much went wrong in late 2003 to late 2004 (when things went most off track).

that first years cost us dearly. We were behind the 8-ball.

AND SANCHEZ WAS IN CHARGE.

What a doofus. He had ample opportunity in late 2003 to ask for more troops. He had ample oppty to try to rethink the strategy then.

He’s no McClellan.... A Hooker or Burnsides or worse.


20 posted on 10/15/2007 9:05:46 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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