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To: nosofar; Jim Robinson
...pretending otherwise...

That's a 2 way street. Those who insist on Rudy are throwing the election to Hillary.

Better they unite behind a conservative candidate that all can support. Why try to force an anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-family, pro-illegal immigration, New York liberal on America when they KNOW that it won't fly, and they also know that it will split their party.

I assume it is because they WANT to split the party, and that they secretly desire a Hillary presidency.

204 posted on 10/16/2007 4:30:04 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: xzins

“That’s a 2 way street. Those who insist on Rudy are throwing the election to Hillary.

Better they unite behind a conservative candidate that all can support. Why try to force an anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-family, pro-illegal immigration, New York liberal on America when they KNOW that it won’t fly, and they also know that it will split their party.

I assume it is because they WANT to split the party, and that they secretly desire a Hillary presidency.”

I’m not insisting on Rudy; I’m voting for Rudy if the choice is between him and Hillary. If the choice were between him and Fred, I’d vote for Fred, or Duncan Hunter. But that is not the case and won’t be the case.

As far as splitting the party goes, I will vote for any Republican that comes out of the primary - without equivocation. To me, that’s supporting the party. To me, those who would split the party walk away from it because they couldn’t get their candidate nominated.

Again, lest I be thought of as a Rudy shill, my hope would have been for a true Conservative to be leading in the polls - but alas, that is not the case. When poll after poll tells me that only someone like Rudy can beat Hillary, I have to pay attention.

Maybe I’m suffering from wild-eyed paranoia here, but when I think of what Hillary can do in terms of judicial appointments, the Fairness Doctrine, the circumvention of the electoral college, her willingness to grant large blocks of illegals and felons the right to vote, and her socialist fervor to tax our capitalist system out of existence - I cannot in good conscience consider staying home on election day.


205 posted on 10/16/2007 5:48:37 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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To: xzins
That's a 2 way street. Those who insist on Rudy are throwing the election to Hillary.

Yes, it is. However, you'd indicated your choice was between God and Rudy. Perhaps I misunderstood you. It sounded like you would not vote for RG because of what you perceive as religious restrictions from doing so. However, by not voting you would implicitly aid the election of HC which I would think you would have the same reservations about. As I said, actions have consequences. The fact is your choice would be between Hillary and Rudy (again assuming these were the nominees). Any action you take will aid one candidate or the other. Vote for RG, he is more likely to win. Vote for HC, she is more likely to win. Don't vote at all and you cede control of the election to everyone that *does* vote and by default aid the election of whoever wins.

BTW, if you ultimately do choose not to vote Republican in the general election, I strongly urge you to at least vote third party. This way your vote is at least counted and will get the attention of the major parties. Not voting is a complete waste since the major parties only care about voters who actually vote.

215 posted on 10/16/2007 10:34:26 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: xzins
That's a 2 way street. Those who insist on Rudy are throwing the election to Hillary.

Yes, it is. However, you'd indicated your choice was between God and Rudy. Perhaps I misunderstood you. It sounded like you would not vote for RG because of what you perceive as religious restrictions from doing so. However, by not voting you would implicitly aid the election of HC which I would think you would have the same reservations about. As I said, actions have consequences. The fact is your choice would be between Hillary and Rudy (again assuming these were the nominees). Any action you take will aid one candidate or the other. Vote for RG, he is more likely to win. Vote for HC, she is more likely to win. Don't vote at all and you cede control of the election to everyone that *does* vote and by default aid the election of whoever wins.

BTW, if you ultimately do choose not to vote Republican in the general election, I strongly urge you to at least vote third party. This way your vote is at least counted and will get the attention of the major parties. Not voting is a complete waste since the major parties only care about voters who actually vote.

216 posted on 10/16/2007 10:40:28 AM PDT by nosofar
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