It's Wrong for the Right to be Rudyphobic

National Review Online ^ | October 12, 2007 | Deroy Murdock

[mimaw]

If Rudy is the nominee and I mean if, and you all stay home or vote third party as Dr. Dobson suggests I hope you don’t mind if we suffer terrorist attacks that will eventually ruin our economy as well as killing innocent Americans. I hope you love socialized medicine. As someone who lived part of every year for almost 20 yrs. in a country with socialized medicine I can tell you my medical needs were met on one of two afternoons a week when I as a private patient had to fork over the equivalent of about 200.00 to have a medical devise checked as well as a blood test to determine drug dosage. I could not use my insurance as not even a receipt was issued. The alternative was to wait for weeks for an appointment and than hours in a hospital ER. I have a friend whose 24 yr. old son has been working in a restaurant even though he has a degree because jobs are difficult to find in this socialized country. Their is basically no such thing as jobs for teenagers. Two different small business owners I befriended over the years said they would give anything if they were able to immigrate to the US and not have the egregious regulations and confiscatory tax system that stands in the way of success. I for one do not want to see the decimation of our military and if you are honest you will have to admit the queen bee will have to decimate the military budget to implement her social programs. I also don’t relish getting back to the 70% tax bracket to fund her programs. As to abortion we had 12 yrs of of republican majority in house a few less in senate and they could not stop it due to democrat president and his 8 yrs. of judicial appointments. We have laws against murder and theft and a whole host of crimes against society and they still occur on a daily basis. Moral and immoral decisions are made everyday in this country and the existing laws are broken. The best we can do is raise our children with high moral principals. My kids will not murder born or unborn human beings, dabble in pornography, steal from others , or cheat on their spouses. They were raised that way and are living their lives that way. Given the amount of crime in this country what would make anyone think they can legislate morality?

[DocH]

Ah Kalifornia:

AND,

Where pets can't have "owners", but only "caretakers"!

It's the NUTJOBS that bring us this kind of LIBERAL NONSENSE that would be equally happy with RINO-rudy OR hillary.

[Captain Kirk]

Rudy is not going to beat Hillary. He is too tied to an unpopular war. If you want to beat Hillary, run Ron Paul. He's the only guy in the field who can outflank Hillary on that issue. Just look at the 2006 elections if you want evidece.

BTW, I wouldn't take too much stock in Murdock. He was pushing McCain back in 2000.

[DocH]

He (RINO-rudy) is a social moderate

Now THAT, is LAUGHABLE. You're on the wrong website if, having looked at his words AND record,

You think RINO-rudy is a "moderate".

He is NOTHING short of a died-in-the-wool LIBERAL on ALL important issues, with the possible exception of the WOT.

As many of us here on FR have said, we will NEVER vote for a liberal, ESPECIALLY one that is parading as a "Republican".

The dem party is already ruined by liberals.

Why would we want to set a precedent (supporting and voting for a LIBERAL RINO) that will damage our party, and our country, for DECADES to come?

Just say NO to ANY and ALL liberals, be they dems OR RINOS.

[Myrddin]

Rudy is a gun grabber. The only way I would vote for him is if that alternative is worse...Hillary Clinton. It would be a vote for the lesser of two evils.

Hillary with a Democrat controlled Congress would shred this country.

[King of Florida]

The nation survived eight years of the Klintoons and we did it because Republicans in Congress resisted the 'Rats' agenda.

For six of those years. The first two years of resistance were courtesy of the incompetent Democrats who controlled Congress then.

[Blogger]

If Rudy is the candidate, that will probably be the result. Rather than castigate those who stand for principle, those who are not pro-life (and if you even consider voting for Rudy you are not in my estimation for you are shoving to the side the murder of 5,200,000 Americans in the first 4 years of the administration alone in the name of ‘unsocialized healthcare’, alleged public safety (can the government ever truly ensure our safety?) and taxation), you should be working to get a candidate that we can all agree upon and can beat Hillary (which we can do if we would all band together).

5.2 million Americans is worth this fight.

[DocH]

Giuliani already has experience as one America’s greatest mayors ever

Keep drinking the koolaid.

[mjolnir]

Keep drinking the koolaid.

Good one!
I just wish Giuliani would run for mayor of Detroit instead of for president.

[VRWCer]

Absolutely right, he is no conservative, and I will not vote for him in the primaries.

However, *if* he wins in the primaries despite my (and others’) vote against, and thereby becomes the Republican candidate for president, then I will vote for him, because I can’t sit by and let my beloved country be decimated by the HildeBeast and her minions, if I can do anything to stop her.

Keep in mind, if he does wind up winning in the primaries, then it is because he does have some Republican support. If we want a conservative, then we need to educate voting Republicans *before* the primaries, so that someone preferable can win our party’s nomination.

[Blogger]

Not to mention all of the non-American children throughout the world that would be killed as a result of having someone with no compulsion against using our taxpayer $$$ to fund abortion.

[ZULU]

“This “Rudyphobia” ignores three key factors: Giuliani’s pro-family/anti-abortion ideas, his socially conservative mayoral record, and his popularity among churchgoing Republicans.”

1) Rudy IS supportive of Roe Versus Wade. He believes its good Constitutional Law. As a trained attorney he should know better and probably does.

2) Rudy believes the Second Amendment dozes’t protect individual rights to own arms. Again, as an attorney he should know better.

3) Rudy created a “Sanctuary City” for illegal invaders while governor of New York and still does not feel that illegal invaders are a significant issue.

4) Rudy thinks dressing in drag and marching in Gay Pride Parades is perfectly normal. Most Americans still don’t agree.

5) Rudy has a long history of supporting liberal Democrats.
He even campaigned with Bill Clinton to push Clinton’s “anti-crime” package.

The only differences between Rudy and Hillary are two:

1) He calls himself a Republican and she calls herself a Democrat

2) If he gets nominated, or even worse, elected, social conservatives blow any chances of seeing a social conservative in the White House for at least a decade - possibly more.

If this guy gets nominated, God forbid, we ARE better off with Hillary in the White House - if only because we can get another crack at replacing her in four years with a real Republican instead of this New York liberal aberration.

[Bob J]

A vote against hillary is as reasonable an action as a vote for someone else.

[phillyfanatic]

I agree. Look, The Weekly Standard had an article by Barnes today which told Rudy how to finally deal with the abortion question. National Polls have that issue 11th in importance. We know it is a values question and Christians know also that it is close to the heart of our Lord. Still, the question is really here for the Kingdom of Man not God. We are not electing a Pope or Apostle. We are trying to stop secular liberalism from the Left which will be so horrendous that Rudy will not look bad compared to Her Highness. After all, Rudy could also choose Mike or Fred as Veep if he wins and that would at least give conservatives a better chance to have their agendas in legislation where any Dem win would wipe out any conservative input. Period. That simply is the truth and if Rudy does win, I will support him. In Ca., in fact, I will vote for him in our primary since he could make Hil spend lots of time and dough there.

[Grunthor]

“It’s Wrong for the Right to be Rudyphobic”

The reason that we are “right” is because we do not support the election of liberals.

[Grunthor]

So what it boils down to is that your party and your country are far more important than your God or you religious beliefs?

[Grunthor]

Bingo!

[mimaw]

I am a conservative republican but I won’t commit suicide to prove it. I’m probably more pro-life than most as I’m also opposed to the death penalty. There are no candidates running on that issue. Next best thing I can do is look to other issues that are important to me and for the most part the republican party meets my needs. So I’ll vote for the party nominee and I won’t throw a tantrum and stay home from the polls or throw my vote away on a third party that will hand the election to Hillary. I won’t be part of that cabal.

[wagglebee]

If Rudy is the nominee and I mean if, and you all stay home or vote third party as Dr. Dobson suggests I hope you don’t mind if we suffer terrorist attacks that will eventually ruin our economy as well as killing innocent Americans.

Guess what? Abortions are killing more Americans EVERY DAY than the terrorists did on 9/11, do you care about them? Do you care about the economy? Because the Social Security crisis and the need for illegal aliens as taxpayers is directly related to the fact that liberals like Rooty have stood by while 50 MILLION future taxpayers have been murdered.

When you can come up with an explanation as to why conservatives should support a candidate who supports the murder of ONE AMERICAN EVERY SINGLE MINUTE, maybe we can talk.

[wagglebee]

I am a conservative republican but I won’t commit suicide to prove it.

Endorsing the MURDER of 50 MILLION Americans sure as hell doesn't support your claim.