Granted it has gotten progressively worse since then.
Please don't flame! I'm posting this to learn and to find out what (better informed) FReepers think.
Ummm, no.
Ummm, no.
Who wanted to keep slavery?
Democrats
Who decided to form their own little country to retain slavery?
Democrats
Who created the Confederate Battle flag?
Democrats
Who started the Klu Klux Klan?
Democrats
Who used the institutionalized racism and fear to maintain their grip on the south for almost 100 years after the civil war?
Democrats
Who would have you believe that Lincoln destroyed this nation
by trying to save it?
take your time, there is only one possible answer.
There is now a substantial and irrefutable body of historical evidence that peaceful secession was always a valid option for states should they reach a sufficient level of dissatisfaction with the federal government.
We only have to look to the Kentucky and Virgina Resolutions of 1798 as proof. Thomas Jefferson himself “...thought that any state government could nullify unconstitutional acts by the federal government, whereas Madison felt that the states needed to act in concert to do so. The crucial point is that they both regarded the states, not the courts, as the bulwark of the people’s liberties. It is highly instructive that, five years before the concept of judicial review was born in Marbury v. Madison, many Americans, including the author of the Declaration of Independence and the Father of the Constitution, looked to state governments as the remedy to federal usurpation of power.”
from:
Reclaiming the American Revolution
by George C. Leef, Posted December 30, 2005
revew of the book:
Reclaiming the American Revolution: The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and Their Legacy by William J. Watkins Jr. (Independent Institute, 2004); 236 pages; $39.95.
at:
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0509g.asp
Of these Resolutions, the wikipedia entry states:
“...The resolutions declared that the Constitution was a “compact.” That is, it was an agreement among the states. The federal government had no right to exercise powers not specifically delegated to it; should the federal government assume such powers, its acts under them would be void. Thus it was the right of the states to decide as to the constitutionality of such laws passed by Congress....”
see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_and_Virginia_Resolutions
Interestingly, I read that one of the lesser Republican candidates has stated he would support a Presidential Commission to study and publish a report on restoring the full power of the Tenth Amendment.
IMO, just the fact that this Amendment is obscure and almost ignored by the government and sadly by the Supreme Court, proves how far down the road we have come since the North invaded the South to enforce collection of the Tariff of Abomination.
This country’s downfall began on Aug. 30, 1932. Francis W. Davis is responsible.
ping
I believe your opinion has been solicited.
Slavery was one issue out of many for the South. Other than a pocket of abolitionists in New England, the North had no truck with slavery and created its own form of "Jim Crow" from time to time. Some Northern politicians railed about new states and territories remaining free lands and the South felt threatened by that. It would mean more representation in D.C. for ideas that seemed at odds with Southern interests.
The WBTS was about preserving the Union. It was preserved but at what cost ultimately: 600,000 lives and a central government that is all powerful and steals our rights like they were candy in a baby's hand?
No FDR destroyed America, first with the great society then with all his concessions to Stalin. He had more reds in his administration then any other president in history. OH wait maybe not the Clintons any way. After FDR that is when the schools and other institutions started being taken by the Commies. Hollywood followed in the fifties and then all the colleges in the 60s. So no Lincoln didnt destroy america. The lefts American Idol did! PS Joe Mccarthy was a true american hero!
Nah. The US decline started with Wilson’s plan to grab the Empire baton from England. This put us on British glidepath to the death of a thousand wars. Growth of Washington government control to control US society was the result.
Acceptance of George Washington’s admonition against foreign entanglements is our best chance for a reversal. But since both parties are dominated by trade and war interests, more control will continue to gravitate to Washington.
I’ve always heard that LIncoln wanted to return the slaves to their country of origin. Obviously that never happened, but I have heard it said many times.
Lincoln dealt with a heck of a lot that would make other presidents cringe.
I’ve always heard that LIncoln wanted to return the slaves to their country of origin. Obviously that never happened, but I have heard it said many times.
Lincoln dealt with a heck of a lot that would make other presidents cringe.
I’ve always heard that LIncoln wanted to return the slaves to their country of origin. Obviously that never happened, but I have heard it said many times.
Lincoln dealt with a heck of a lot that would make other presidents cringe.
I can’t fault Lincoln for seeking to preserve the Union. The blame more likely can be placed on the Radical Republicans who stuck us with the 14th Amendment after Lincoln’s death. That set in motion the idea of egalitarianism and effectively repealed the 10th Amendment. I don’t think the authors and ratifiers of the 14th Amendment intended it to go as far as it has gone, but they were irresponsible in framing it so vaguely, including the citizenship clause which has been used to give citizenship to anchor babies.
So you know where I am coming from I believe both Lincoln and FDR did what they HAD TO do to preserve the UNITED STATES of America.
I think America started going down hill when some freepers posted provocative posts and then weren’t around to participate in the debate!
Slavery was wrong - it is too bad we had to fight about it way back when, but we did, slavery in our country is rightly over, and it's very silly to ask stupid questions like this.
If you're looking to blame something for the current state of affairs...well, I blame CNN. And maybe McDonalds.
I love living in the south, I enjoy my southern friends, I ain't leaving, and I wish all y'all would get over the 'yankee' thang.
Since you asked a silly question:
30 things you will never hear a southern boy say...
30. Oh I just couldn't, she's only sixteen.
29. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.
28. Duct tape won't fix that.
27. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken.
26. We don't keep firearms in this house.
25. You can't feed that to the dog.
24. No kids in the back of the pickup, it's just not safe.
23. Wrestling's fake.
22. We're vegetarians.
21. Do you think my gut is too big?
20. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.
19. Honey, we don't need another dog.
18. Who gives a dang who won the Civil War?
17. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.
16. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.
15. I just couldn't find a thing at Wal-Mart today.
14. Trim the fat off that steak.
13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.
12. The tires on that truck are too big.
11. I've got it all on the C: drive.
10. Unsweetened tea tastes better.
9. My fiancee, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.
8. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.
7. Checkmate.
6. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.
5. Hey, here's an episode of "Hee Haw" that we haven't seen.
4. I don't have a favorite college team.
3. You All.
2. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Betty Mae.
AND NUMBER ONE....
1. Nope, no more for me. I'm driving.
Our downfall really accelerated when writers, for unknown reasons, invented the word “loosing,” ignoring the proper word “losing.” “Loozing” I could understand, but not “loosing.”
Your headline is an internally answered question.
Since had Lincoln not prevailed, the states that claimed to make up the Confederacy would have become dis-united from the United States, ergo, the states would no longer have been united, ergo there would have been no United States.
Had the Confederacy succeeded, Rhode Island would have certainly succeeded over the Bicycle Riders issue within a few years, and Pennsylvania and New Jersey, and possibly New York would have succeeded soon after that on the issue of Interdigitation.
It would then be all over.