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Bush: Protectionism will cost U.S. jobs
Yahoo ^ | 10/12/07 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 10/13/2007 8:28:25 AM PDT by ckilmer

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To: 1rudeboy
... last year, almost 1030 billion dollars' worth of goods.

Even better, we are ahead of the export pace from the same year-to-date figures in 2006: currently, we are at $753.4 billion as of August, 2007; last year, as of August, 2006, we were at $675.7 billion. That augurs well for this being another record year for exporting goods. That's a strong increase of 11.5% over last year at this time.

Also, imports are not up by the same percentage; the year-to-date figure for the import of goods as of August, 2007, was $1,272.6 billion; imports for the same period in 2006 were $1,227.2. That's an increase of only 3.7% for imported goods.

41 posted on 10/13/2007 10:40:31 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: ckilmer

“So the federal government is providing substantial funding for trade adjustment assistance that helps Americans make the transition from one job to the next. We are working to improve federal job-training programs. And we are providing strong support for America’s community colleges, where people of any age can go to learn new skills for a better, high-paying career.”better, high-paying career.”

They’ve been throwing that line of nonsense around for about twenty years now. Just what percentage of displaced manufacturing workers do they claim to have retrained and put in a, “better, high-paying career.”

Do they have some reliable stats on that?


42 posted on 10/13/2007 10:47:13 AM PDT by Will88
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To: ckilmer
Somebody in the Republican Party should tell Bush to shut the hell up and go hide in a closet somewhere until after the 2008 General Elections.

The man is a blathering fool. NONE of the candidates running on the Republican ticket want to be tied with this national embarrassment.

43 posted on 10/13/2007 10:48:13 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: 1rudeboy; Will88; bill1952
I admit my post #11 was a mistake. Over the years I have found that most Freepers think much farther than an inch deep.

I expected that most would be able to understand the idea that if someone shows they do not have the sense or desire to use a prophylactic with a next door neighbor then it's likely they will have failings when dealing with anyone else anywhere else.

Again, my mistake. I admit it. I did not consider the obtuse reader.

44 posted on 10/13/2007 10:55:28 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Tagline:(Optional, printed after your name on post0:)
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To: 1rudeboy

“So he brought-up illegal immigration by accident? Please help him out.”

His #11 was a spoof about US citizens treating Mexico the same way Mexican illegals treat the US, and the unlikelihood (more like impossibility) that any other nation would be up with the nonsense the US puts up with. A twist on leveling the playing field. No relation to trade with South Korea.


45 posted on 10/13/2007 10:57:35 AM PDT by Will88
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To: ckilmer
If they break the law do we get to too? I’m tired of paying these taxes so some lard potato can go to Washington.
46 posted on 10/13/2007 11:09:31 AM PDT by alrea
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To: Joe Boucher
These trade agreements are supposed to raise the standard of living in poor countries but I think they lower ours more than anything. When I look at our economy I see a system that is losing everything but service jobs. Free trade has sent American companies to places where they can make cheaper products to send back to America for a bigger profit. We still have the salesman but we are losing the manufacturers and we are close to losing the truckers who deliver it to the stores. Free trade has been a great thing for China but I think we were better off without it.
47 posted on 10/13/2007 11:12:04 AM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: 1rudeboy

Been talking to a neighbor from Belize.
She says they don’t care for Nafta or these other treaties because their small country has no Niche market other then unspoiled nature.
No auto industry, no dairy or banana or coffee or marijuana that’s better then anyone else so they don’t care to compete like our cattle or wheat industries. (I use these industries only as an example). But they are not for Equal trade and too have high tariffs.


49 posted on 10/13/2007 11:28:47 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: peeps36

You are correct in that it was supposed to create middle classes the world over who in turn would purchase our goods, food stuffs, weapons.
Most can’t afford (or we don’t want to have) our weapons but we do sell a lot.


50 posted on 10/13/2007 11:33:37 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: 1rudeboy
1rudeboy is a shill for the open border fags.

Why is that I'm always the last to find this stuff out?

51 posted on 10/13/2007 11:47:45 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: isthisnickcool
Again, my mistake. I admit it. I did not consider the obtuse reader.

Nor did you consider that your comment itself was obtuse, and that I was happy to point it out to you.

52 posted on 10/13/2007 11:48:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; bill1952
[ADVERT: USATrade Online - Trade data online]

U.S. Exports to World (Total)
from 2002 to 2006
By 5-digit End-Use Code

(In thousands of dollars)

Additional information

End-Use Code Value 2002 Value 2003 Value 2004 Value 2005 Value 2006
(00000) Wheat 3,771,920 4,002,455 5,191,779 4,416,027 4,277,103
(00010) Rice 832,936 1,077,760 1,223,738 1,337,714 1,355,253
(00100) Soybeans 5,806,179 8,047,048 6,894,715 6,626,555 7,275,892
(00110) Oilseeds, food oils 1,317,380 1,419,363 1,273,706 1,190,935 1,317,680
(00200) Corn 5,784,028 5,750,589 6,926,461 5,824,420 8,269,286
(00210) Sorghum, barley, oats 674,758 677,489 611,091 628,355 685,877
(00220) Animal feeds, n.e.c. 3,298,763 3,297,751 3,115,922 3,387,722 3,804,049
(00300) Meat, poultry, etc. 7,002,732 7,873,236 5,671,895 7,206,280 7,862,701
(00310) Dairy products and eggs 714,816 744,458 1,167,111 1,299,418 1,491,898
(00320) Fruits, frozen juices 4,038,150 4,295,114 4,533,462 4,996,914 5,561,085
(00330) Vegetables 2,900,539 2,965,801 3,189,490 3,509,842 3,846,197
(00340) Nuts 1,657,332 1,891,211 2,365,554 3,043,642 3,227,156
(00350) Bakery products 2,020,889 2,255,755 2,467,241 2,696,155 3,003,394
(00360) Other foods 4,482,548 4,906,768 5,340,365 5,872,533 6,584,793
(00370) Wine and related products 726,766 817,565 984,623 912,592 1,093,913
(01000) Fish and shellfish 3,197,235 3,363,283 3,823,237 4,207,720 4,350,247
(01010) Alcoholic beverages, excluding wine 627,135 681,029 777,286 821,174 958,040
(01020) Nonagricultural foods, etc. 761,472 959,336 1,011,988 977,358 1,044,079
(10000) Cotton, raw 2,066,878 3,388,982 4,279,556 3,933,122 4,514,984
(10100) Tobacco, unmanufactured 1,058,963 1,025,809 1,041,246 983,722 1,133,905
(10120) Hides and skins 1,751,470 1,793,603 1,757,782 1,787,883 2,054,917
(10130) Agric. industry-unmanufactured 1,173,376 1,255,510 1,468,907 1,401,808 1,575,829
(10140) Agric. farming-unmanufactured 1,544,415 1,731,381 1,610,260 1,833,043 1,849,933
(10150) Agriculture-manufactured, other 1,617,726 1,377,403 1,510,523 1,651,371 1,734,142
(11010) Metallurgical grade coal 1,024,080 1,014,289 1,760,238 2,385,524 2,559,063
(11020) Coal and fuels, other 898,318 788,371 1,206,042 1,329,221 1,331,295
(11100) Crude oil 87,556 128,282 308,194 551,652 567,008
(11110) Fuel oil 2,583,998 3,117,433 4,353,770 6,932,607 12,070,290
(11120) Petroleum products, other 6,978,589 8,633,021 11,583,088 14,104,621 17,347,478
(11130) Natural gas liquids 687,884 814,265 836,838 1,075,494 1,625,140
(11200) Gas-natural 995,442 1,399,765 2,125,663 3,109,833 2,243,303
(11300) Nuclear fuel materials 1,510,512 1,570,651 1,631,283 1,619,190 1,827,438
(11400) Electric energy 303,047 755,696 828,855 1,046,509 1,051,985
(12000) Steelmaking materials 1,863,503 2,607,012 4,014,104 5,991,623 6,838,801
(12100) Iron and steel mill products 3,219,083 4,176,506 5,208,393 6,917,987 7,283,742
(12110) Iron and steel products, other 2,768,597 2,905,047 3,636,622 4,351,229 5,155,405
(12200) Aluminum and alumina 2,947,824 3,032,119 3,992,337 5,191,121 7,292,147
(12210) Copper 1,112,520 1,510,815 2,002,919 2,356,484 4,699,934
(12260) Nonmonetary gold 3,356,634 4,790,354 4,449,217 5,548,806 8,755,920
(12270) Precious metals, other 2,560,780 2,144,607 2,758,099 3,175,711 7,041,621
(12290) Nonferrous metals, other 2,148,428 2,464,242 3,053,412 4,523,315 6,609,065
(12300) Finished metal shapes 8,728,448 8,948,222 9,964,894 11,405,809 13,932,951
(12420) Pulpwood and woodpulp 4,051,462 4,259,100 4,696,567 5,272,294 5,903,241
(12430) Newsprint 8,160,275 8,554,129 9,274,785 9,862,581 10,556,635
(12500) Plastic materials 14,104,243 15,407,108 21,656,550 24,793,298 27,873,376
(12510) Chemicals-fertilizers 3,924,528 4,105,064 4,744,018 5,197,329 5,280,861
(12530) Chemicals-inorganic 3,929,179 3,930,315 4,423,922 5,880,332 6,663,746
(12540) Chemicals-organic 14,631,857 17,633,336 22,187,353 23,377,062 26,971,487
(12550) Chemicals-other 13,238,295 14,443,025 15,609,108 16,721,139 18,521,381
(12600) Cotton fiber cloth 2,728,651 2,788,335 3,264,766 3,232,897 3,132,042
(12620) Manmade cloth 4,894,813 5,048,515 5,550,833 5,686,350 5,765,167
(12630) Hair, waste materials 429,684 447,027 493,439 483,543 552,150
(12640) Finished textile supplies 2,248,350 2,196,564 2,321,442 2,377,417 2,541,374
(12650) Leather and furs 840,316 866,753 1,193,579 1,095,540 1,051,998
(12700) Synthetic rubber-primary 1,675,484 1,852,549 2,218,021 2,694,877 3,185,546
(12720) Nonmetallic minerals 416,415 427,349 488,635 488,854 605,994
(12750) Industrial rubber products 2,190,650 2,199,254 2,452,514 2,585,845 2,923,854
(12760) Mineral supplies-manufactured 3,093,482 3,307,186 3,670,944 3,751,497 4,502,639
(12765) Tapes, audio and visual 1,203,833 1,346,509 1,620,300 2,014,146 1,795,704
(12770) Other industrial supplies 14,477,266 15,049,554 13,757,853 14,793,038 16,363,223
(13100) Logs and lumber 3,568,646 3,675,962 4,213,673 4,332,968 4,593,107
(13110) Wood supplies, manufactured 875,807 911,252 1,028,197 1,074,196 1,220,776
(13200) Glass-plate, sheet, etc. 977,598 979,685 1,088,950 1,141,029 1,278,636
(13210) Shingles, molding, wallboard 1,891,071 1,961,770 2,284,145 2,637,272 3,016,416
(13220) Nontextile floor tiles 297,270 300,613 337,797 377,329 414,304
(20000) Generators, accessories 6,171,391 6,286,538 7,028,809 7,613,908 9,464,756
(20005) Electric apparatus 21,373,353 21,158,082 24,231,365 25,674,197 29,748,335
(21000) Drilling & oilfield equipment 6,562,205 6,066,973 6,869,681 8,153,668 10,778,601
(21010) Specialized mining 384,423 419,075 544,473 634,938 838,010
(21030) Excavating machinery 4,986,166 5,284,702 6,657,603 8,812,827 9,866,450
(21040) Nonfarm tractors and parts 960,239 1,063,017 1,439,904 1,382,445 1,858,428
(21100) Industrial engines 11,601,418 11,690,670 13,511,204 14,934,258 15,953,605
(21110) Food, tobacco machinery 1,732,148 1,688,991 1,860,182 2,064,865 2,192,826
(21120) Metalworking machine tools 5,174,725 5,252,726 7,075,695 7,663,288 9,490,359
(21130) Textile, sewing machines 1,059,214 1,020,197 1,134,193 1,247,851 1,274,629
(21140) Wood, glass, plastic 2,597,190 2,503,246 3,367,352 3,645,557 3,628,566
(21150) Pulp and paper machinery 2,278,780 2,372,552 2,566,827 2,718,324 2,850,457
(21160) Measuring, testing, control instruments 13,218,013 13,936,101 16,927,323 16,720,633 19,119,448
(21170) Materials handling equipment 4,488,470 4,655,814 5,984,009 8,162,312 9,903,852
(21180) Industrial machines, other 21,727,003 21,718,029 26,971,265 28,295,944 32,709,273
(21190) Photo, service industry machinery 5,422,145 5,714,167 6,553,936 7,492,107 8,178,549
(21200) Agricultural machinery, equipment 3,526,203 3,793,910 4,422,448 5,144,124 5,308,940
(21300) Computers 9,190,115 8,664,470 9,198,120 10,206,187 11,444,607
(21301) Computer accessories 29,362,295 31,260,248 33,607,204 35,330,167 36,087,221
(21320) Semiconductors 42,234,579 46,137,440 48,050,388 47,221,556 52,383,482
(21400) Telecommunications equipment 22,207,691 20,743,162 24,543,091 25,666,771 28,911,061
(21500) Business machines and equipment 2,023,646 1,927,170 2,110,291 2,335,954 2,704,205
(21600) Laboratory testing instruments 4,824,079 5,118,842 6,093,197 6,665,275 7,279,594
(21610) Medicinal equipment 14,481,033 15,742,536 17,852,664 20,364,358 22,664,867
(22000) Civilian aircraft 26,676,656 23,305,357 22,917,114 29,332,618 40,714,914
(22010) Parts-civilian aircraft 12,222,736 12,134,464 13,217,079 15,305,904 17,373,828
(22020) Engines-civilian aircraft 11,584,658 11,338,959 13,840,691 16,145,914 16,947,535
(22100) Railway transportation equipment 1,245,275 1,641,902 1,856,082 2,345,207 2,938,227
(22200) Vessels, excluding scrap 204,471 67,122 40,953 64,957 51,701
(22210) Commercial vessels, other 179,292 138,968 207,814 230,358 222,269
(22220) Marine engines, parts 758,992 793,606 740,348 976,964 1,127,802
(22300) Spacecraft, excluding military 36,932 37,138 53,632 37,955 26,894
(30000) Passenger cars, new and used 20,552,414 22,102,841 24,609,325 30,492,691 34,530,937
(30100) Trucks, buses and special purpose vehicles 8,363,362 10,244,379 11,928,396 13,477,345 15,090,202
(30200) Engines and engine parts (carburetors, pistons, ri 10,112,579 10,112,654 10,754,788 11,324,368 11,924,358
(30210) Bodies and chassis for passenger cars 138,831 185,673 148,197 58,449 58,962
(30220) Automotive tires and tubes 1,909,086 1,819,338 2,124,051 2,403,281 2,479,500
(30230) Other parts and accessories of vehicles 37,866,139 36,220,655 39,727,480 40,916,620 43,088,027
(40000) Apparel, household goods - textile 6,305,462 5,935,708 5,389,846 5,311,955 5,183,748
(40030) Apparel,household goods-nontextile 1,307,645 1,349,863 1,433,964 1,672,191 1,835,403
(40050) Sports apparel and gear 445,492 421,225 436,046 485,324 588,006
(40100) Pharmaceutical preparations 17,347,840 20,529,484 25,431,506 27,618,757 30,789,492
(40110) Books, printed matter 3,969,325 4,175,252 4,397,917 4,820,801 5,192,672
(40120) Toiletries and cosmetics 4,139,641 4,580,874 5,260,323 5,975,099 6,754,315
(40130) Tobacco, manufactured 1,962,035 1,881,706 1,599,295 1,340,630 1,362,642
(40140) Writing and art supplies 4,609,284 4,695,044 5,062,591 5,623,401 5,827,807
(41000) Furniture, household goods, etc. 2,122,958 2,415,749 2,723,936 2,885,663 3,204,067
(41010) Glassware, chinaware 450,822 348,977 393,530 405,241 432,492
(41020) Cookware, cutlery, tools 695,857 687,921 733,034 771,945 869,659
(41030) Household appliances 4,536,883 4,830,195 5,224,404 6,050,859 6,650,584
(41040) Rugs 693,290 693,005 789,475 906,070 1,003,387
(41050) Other household goods 8,444,489 9,389,945 10,754,075 12,428,236 14,073,095
(41110) Pleasure boats and motors 1,086,943 1,368,396 1,911,421 2,480,770 2,778,543
(41120) Toys/games/sporting goods 5,459,446 5,692,490 6,316,574 7,564,206 9,027,618
(41140) Musical instruments 1,032,717 862,781 1,056,377 1,058,999 1,067,154
(41200) TV's, VCR's, etc. 3,955,119 3,382,301 3,602,070 3,639,449 3,872,073
(41210) Stereo equipment, etc. 1,541,870 1,560,706 1,712,822 2,213,713 2,461,393
(41220) Records, tapes, and disks 3,221,800 3,191,920 3,386,401 3,640,005 3,642,747
(41300) Numismatic coins 56,008 63,051 54,118 67,805 154,448
(41310) Jewelry, etc 2,968,325 3,049,472 3,867,696 4,727,493 6,143,415
(41320) Artwork, antiques, stamps, etc. 2,901,776 3,036,051 3,877,752 4,778,136 5,953,003
(42000) Nursery stock, etc. 269,747 289,308 313,536 341,782 387,790
(42100) Gem diamonds 4,834,043 5,476,603 7,346,005 8,906,873 9,987,222
(50000) Military aircraft, complete 1,672,201 2,159,009 2,360,999 2,417,217 4,464,598
(50010) Aircraft launching gear, parachutes, etc. 89,950 116,027 214,592 305,808 344,791
(50020) Engines and turbines for military aircraft 1,836,533 1,320,834 1,260,987 1,566,406 1,643,565
(50030) Military trucks, armored vehicles, etc. 722,039 635,004 745,331 920,345 844,889
(50040) Military ships and boats 2,060 1,000 0 0 5,170
(50050) Tanks, artillery, missiles, rockets, guns and ammu 1,929,437 1,615,936 2,067,159 2,037,040 2,714,343
(50060) Military apparel and footwear 812,385 844,928 506,395 668,594 693,123
(50070) Parts for military-type goods 4,639,359 4,816,374 4,728,834 4,919,362 5,918,013
(60000) Minimum value shipments 14,635,601 15,043,576 16,781,625 18,800,866 19,745,847
(60010) Miscellaneous domestic exports and special transac 6,514,038 5,858,199 5,737,754 5,328,568 5,241,316
(60040) Undocumented exports to Canada 0 0 0 0 3,250,666
TOTAL 693,103,192 724,770,983 818,774,859 905,977,633 1,037,142,973

U.S. Exports to World

We sell over $1 trillion of our "overpriced goods" to the world. Hardly worth mentioning. LOL!


53 posted on 10/13/2007 11:48:37 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Most of those things probably cost more to manufacture here than elsewhere. That’s why Burkina Faso is an economic powerhouse.


54 posted on 10/13/2007 11:52:17 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: expat_panama

That’s what I get for trying to turn an economics thread into a discussion about economics.


55 posted on 10/13/2007 11:53:55 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: bill1952
and the dollar is neatly coming into the range where pesos will be envisioned at near parity, once they adjust out a few things.

Math is hard. LOL!

56 posted on 10/13/2007 11:55:05 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I just posted the following, to watch the malcontents twist themselves into pretzels:

Steel Makers Succeed in Keeping Tariffs.

57 posted on 10/13/2007 12:23:19 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RightWhale

Do we favor free trade or not? Seems to depend. When the commodity exchange is open we favor it. When it is the weekend they are all commies.
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wrong.

the issue is not free trade but rather the ambitions of the NAU crowd the wind up foisting unlimited liabilities on the american middle class in exchange for nothing


58 posted on 10/13/2007 12:28:45 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

The issue was named.


59 posted on 10/13/2007 1:08:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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To: Lazarus Longer
I like Duncan Hunter’s idea: “mirror tariffs” — maintaining the same tariff rates as our foreign trading partners.

Because they make products more expensive for their citizens we should also make products more expensive for ours?

60 posted on 10/13/2007 1:11:44 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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