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To: The Duke
Fascism isn’t a reference to Nazi Germany.

You should know better before you start calling people who disagree with you “uneducated”.

Fascism is a political ideology which is well represented in Islamic movements today. Hitler’s Nazi Germany was based on “master race” fascism. The Islamic movement today is based on religious fascism.

And since you think he's "right on target" you are as big a nut as he is. To say that the term was created to perpetuate war is an affront to decent people simply trying to call a spade a spade.

12 posted on 10/12/2007 2:27:20 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB
Hitler’s Nazi Germany was based on “master race” fascism. The Islamic movement today is based on religious fascism.
Osama isn't a fascist, he's a totalitarian. There's a big difference.

Fascism is inherently a collectivist ideology. The term fascism itself comes from the roman fasces, representing the collective will of the people. Defining who the "people" are is where the race stuff comes in.

Osama is a *theocrat* which is quite a bit different. To Osama power comes from religious belief not from the group. Osama may envision a caliphate but there is no idea of a "race" or a people behind it. His ideas are certainly odious, but they're not fascism.

What fascism and islamism have in common is an extremely totalitarian outlook. Both ideologies advocate complete and total control over the individual in the service of some higher power. Individual rights are completely alien. That's the real connection.

The reason that the more correct terminology doesn't get used is that it doesn't make a good soundbite. Say "Islamototalitarian" to your average schmoe and you'll get stunned silence. Say "Islamofascist" and people will say "oooh... Nazis bad...".

This sort of dishonesty is one of the things I like least about the current strain of neoconservatism. "Noble lies" will always come back to bite you in the end.
17 posted on 10/12/2007 3:06:29 AM PDT by ketsu
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