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In defense of his Confederate pride
St Petersburg Times ^ | October 7, 2007 | Stephanie Garry

Posted on 10/11/2007 2:41:12 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: snippy_about_it
I live down here and even now, even with the the intrusion of the Federal Government, we are less taxed and live with less regulation.

You're right. Here in Tennessee we stopped an income tax and amended our state constitution to limit marriage to one man and one woman. Try doing that in a New England state and watch how fast the rich plutocrats who govern those places slap you down.

283 posted on 10/15/2007 4:41:11 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: carton253

Hmmmmm. I’m currently rereading ‘Whirlwind of War’.


284 posted on 10/15/2007 6:00:02 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
laughing AT you, "mr Minister of DAMNyankee PROPAGANDA".

"hanging around with" the nitwits/BIGOTS/leftists/FOOLS from "the coven" is obviously affecting your brain. (something about "lying down with dogs")

fwiw, all of the intelligent readers thought that your PITIFUL attempt to deceive was FUNNY, given that the TRUTH was IN the link, where i said that i did NOT know where COL Quantrell was born.

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

285 posted on 10/15/2007 7:42:13 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
fwiw, all of the intelligent readers thought that your PITIFUL attempt to deceive was FUNNY, given that the TRUTH was IN the link, where i said that i did NOT know where COL Quantrell was born.

Another thing you didn't do was identify those historians you claim said Quantrill was born in New York City. More phantom sources like your rector?

286 posted on 10/15/2007 7:46:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
i don't think that i had any reason to identify them. fwiw, i don't "do" assignments from DAMNyankees (especially from you, N-S).

to ALL: i used to "do assignments" until i found that the INTENT of the DAMNyankees was to waste my time, as they cared NOTHING about the TRUTH, regardless of WHAT source i posted. (i'd spend multiple hours PROVING that you NONSENSE/BILGE/LIES were false, only to have the DY haters say, "that's not a good source". then i'd post another PRIMARY SOURCE, only to be told, "that's not a good source", etc.etc.etc.)

when one of "the leaders" of "The DAMNyankee Coven" said that the OR was "rebel propaganda, which cannot be believed" i QUIT doing research for the DYS!

instead the DY were/ARE just HATERS/FOOLS/BLOWHARDS & care NOTHING for the TRUTH, when it made/makes the DAMNyankees look like the HATE-filled, arrogant/ignorant/sanctimonious garbage that DYs demonstrably are.

free dixie,sw.

287 posted on 10/15/2007 8:26:12 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
More hogwash. Lincoln's actions on habeas corpus may or may not have been Constitutional, the Supreme Court never ruled on it.

It's a crying shame to see that one could possess an MBA and still be unable to read and comprehend court opinions. The US Supreme court stated,

'If at any time the public safety should require the suspension of the powers vested by this act in the courts of the United States, it is for the legislature to say so.

That question depends on political considerations, on which the legislature is to decide. Until the legislative will be expressed, this court can only see its duty, and must obey the laws.
Chief Justice Marshall, ex parte Bollman, 4 Cranch 75, 101 (1807)

Again by Chief Justice Roger B. Taney in the in-chambers decision of ex parte Merryman, 17 F. Cas. 144 (1861),
With such provisions in the Constitution, expressed in language too clear to be misunderstood by any one, I can see no ground whatever for supposing that the President, in any emergency or in any state of things, can authorize the suspension of the privileges of the writ of habeas corpus, or arrest a citizen, except in aid of the judicial power. He certainly does not faithfully execute the laws if he takes upon himself legislative power by suspending the writ of habeas corpus, and the judicial power also, by arresting and imprisoning a person without due process of law. Nor can any argument be drawn from the nature of sovereignty, or the necessity of government, for self-defence in times of tumult and danger. The Government of the United States is one of delegated and limited powers. It derives its existence and authority altogether from the Constitution, and neither of its branches, Executive, Legislative, or Judicial can exercise any of the powers of Government beyond those specified and granted.

And again, by Justice David Davis in ex parte Milligan, 71 Wall. 2, 115, 124 (1866), yet another habeas corpus case:

"[I]t was of the highest importance that the lawfulness of the suspension should be fully established. It was under these circumstances, which were such as to arrest the attention of the country, that this law was passed. The President was authorized by it to suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus."

". . . The proposition is this: that in a time of war the commander of an armed force (if in his opinion the exigencies of the country demand it, and of which he is to judge), has the power, within the lines of his military district, to suspend all civil rights and their remedies, and subject citizens as well as soldiers to the rule of his will; and in the exercise of his lawful authority cannot be restrained, except by his superior officer or the President of the United States.

. . . The statement of this proposition shows its importance; for, if true, republican government is a failure, and there is an end of liberty regulated by law. Martial law, established on such a basis, destroys every guarantee of the Constitution, and effectually renders the 'military independent of and superior to the civil power'-the attempt to do which by the King of Great Britain was deemed by our fathers such an offence, that they assigned it to the world as one of the causes which impelled them to declare their independence."

The Supreme Court happens to disagree with you.
288 posted on 10/15/2007 8:32:36 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: rustbucket
Largest exporter of what? I'm not sure what you're referring to. The words above weren't from a quote of mine, at least not on this thread.

Sorry, apparently the cut from another thread got pasted on this one. Mea culpa.

You are probably referring to one of my posts

Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Interesting story.

289 posted on 10/15/2007 9:25:51 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
btw, PLEASE remind everyone of your opinion that you are "an expert on every subject", as you claimed to be on another thread.

everyone here needs a LAUGH, at your expense.

free dixie,sw

290 posted on 10/15/2007 9:35:08 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie; Non-Sequitur
actually, i said that i did NOT know!!!

John Wilkes Booth's letter
Post #46

You should pardon another definition. COPPERHEAD: a person born in the north, who is wise enough to cleave to the rebel cause. Our own Colonel William C. Quantrell, born in NYC,(late of the 4th MO Partisan Rangers) and the gracious lady, Betty Boopof this forum, are two excellent examples of Copperheads; as time passes, i predict more and more copperheads will be converted to the TRUE CAUSE of southern liberty!

46 Posted on 07/09/2000 08:35:44 PDT by stand watie


291 posted on 10/15/2007 9:42:23 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie; Non-Sequitur
Men say Rebel flag flies for freedom

Post #159

for example, William Clarke Quantrell was born in New York City (sorry, ravinson, not all GOOD rebels are southern born!),died at the age of 32 of pneumonia after a lenghty illness as a result of a gunshot wound received in battle with yankee partisans in KY,was NEVER a "regular officer" of the CSA (he was commissioned as a Captain of Missouri's State Militia in 1861 and was promoted to his final rank of Colonel by the governor of Missouri in 1864).

159 Posted on 06/29/2000 07:29:24 PDT by stand watie

Post #165

New York City's Dept. of Stastics has W.C. Quantrell's origional birth certificate on file. It states that Colonel Quantrell was born in Queens. I won't argue the point further, as I wasn't there.

165 Posted on 06/29/2000 18:44:49 PDT by stand watie

292 posted on 10/15/2007 9:50:31 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
What was the real reason for the Civil War?

Post #294

during my research, i found that MANY historians of the revisionist persuasion had INTENTIONALY falsified quotes, data, quotations and records of the period. for example, i found more than twenty cases where crimes were alleged against Colonel Quantrell (the proper spelling of his name, per his official NY state birth certificate!), Turner Ashby,William Anderson,"Sue" Mundy,Tom Hollister,and other partisans, which were committed more than a year after they DIED!

294 Posted on 02/22/2001 08:15:49 PST by stand watie

293 posted on 10/15/2007 10:02:50 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
i don't think that i had any reason to identify them. fwiw, i don't "do" assignments from DAMNyankees (especially from you, N-S).

Why not? Just make up a couple of names and a few details. Just like you do for everything else you post.

294 posted on 10/15/2007 10:34:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: stand watie
btw, PLEASE remind everyone of your opinion that you are "an expert on every subject", as you claimed to be on another thread.

How about a link to where I said that?

295 posted on 10/15/2007 10:35:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: 4CJ
...ex parte Bollman...

Who had suspended habeas corpus in the Bollman case, Congress or the President?

The Supreme Court happens to disagree with you.

On the contrary. We know how Chief Justice Marshall would have voted had the question come before him. We know how Chief Justice Taney would have voted and how Justice Davis would have voted. But what we have never had was the entire Supreme Court rulling on the question of who may suspend habeas corpus because the question has never been brought before the entire court. Even MBAs know that.

296 posted on 10/15/2007 10:41:07 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Badeye

I’m sorry. I don’t know what that is about.


297 posted on 10/15/2007 11:09:47 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: carton253

The Civil War through the eyes of Lincoln, Davis, Grant, Sherman, Lee, Chestnut, and a few others. Very entertaining, based on their letters and or autobiographies.

Well worth tracking it down and reading it.


298 posted on 10/15/2007 11:12:59 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Badeye

Sounds very interesting. Even though I have done a great deal of research and study of my main characters and the Civil War in general, once the 18th North Carolina miss on the Old Bullock Farm Road, history is changed.


299 posted on 10/15/2007 11:23:50 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: carton253

‘once the 18th North Carolina miss on the Old Bullock Farm Road, history is changed.’

If thats a reference to Jackson’s death by friendly fire, yes indeed.

The debate about Jackson’s surviving that unfortunate incident, and being at Gettysburg, for example, is facinating.

Personally, I don’t think his being alive would have changed anything into a ‘positive’ for the South, but its pure speculation.

Sure were a lot of well dug in cannon up around Cemetary Hill on the evening of July 1st....

Have you read Gingrich’s ‘what if’ triology about Gettysburg?


300 posted on 10/15/2007 11:35:21 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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