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Inauguration Day for Alien Signal-Hunting Telescope
Space.com ^ | 11 October 2007 | Seth Shostak

Posted on 10/11/2007 2:05:36 PM PDT by Freeport

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Refuting Fermi: No Evidence for Extraterrestrial Life?
National Institute for Discovery Science | John B. Alexander, Ph.D
Posted on 01/02/2005 7:43:04 AM EST by SunkenCiv
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41 posted on 10/11/2007 10:28:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Freeport

We will never hear anything because we are to distant and other forms of life are too primitive!


42 posted on 10/11/2007 10:34:30 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48
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To: BlazingArizona
The odds against us being so "special" are approximately all the stars in the sky to one.

It's not about odds. What are the odds of a universe existing?

43 posted on 10/12/2007 5:12:24 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: DungeonMaster
We’re alone, except for God and the angels.

And you know this how?

44 posted on 10/12/2007 5:14:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: from occupied ga
And you know this how?

And you know otherwise how?

45 posted on 10/12/2007 5:29:59 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: SengirV
Å great waste of space then.

Window dressings to an infinitely powerful God.

46 posted on 10/12/2007 5:33:15 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: Freeport
Mines a bit more on the adventurous side...

What fun. Adventure implies not knowing an outcome.

47 posted on 10/12/2007 5:34:50 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

this piece is all about discerning, that’s the point

we have not yet discerned the manner to communicate with colonial insects

discerning is the problem


48 posted on 10/12/2007 5:45:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: DungeonMaster
And you know otherwise how?

I wasn't the one who made the absurd absolute claim. You were. Answer the question, if you can.

49 posted on 10/12/2007 6:07:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: from occupied ga
I wasn't the one who made the absurd absolute claim. You were. Answer the question, if you can.

The answer is the Bible.

50 posted on 10/12/2007 6:14:05 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: DungeonMaster
The answer is the Bible.

Where in the bible? I don't recall anything about aliens in it, but my memory could be wrong.

51 posted on 10/12/2007 6:47:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: from occupied ga
Where in the bible? I don't recall anything about aliens in it, but my memory could be wrong.

Exactly!

52 posted on 10/12/2007 6:55:48 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: DungeonMaster

So you are saying God is highly inefficient then?


53 posted on 10/12/2007 7:13:46 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV
So you are saying God is highly inefficient then?

Not at all. He very efficiently showed His glory by making such amazing window dressings.

54 posted on 10/12/2007 7:20:44 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: DungeonMaster
I don't recall anything about aliens in it, ... Exactly!

OK I understand now, if it isn't mentioned in the bible then it doesn't exist? I don't agree with you, but at least I understand why you said what you said.

55 posted on 10/12/2007 8:19:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: from occupied ga
OK I understand now, if it isn't mentioned in the bible then it doesn't exist?

Yeah, like Mary's immaculate conception, for example.

56 posted on 10/12/2007 8:40:36 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (John 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee?)
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To: Kevmo

Was going to mention that statistics is not mathematics but some oddball thing that uses entropy but isn’t science either. The Statistics Dept. is two doors down from the Math Dept. next to Computer Science.


57 posted on 10/12/2007 8:56:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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To: DungeonMaster
Yeah, like Mary's immaculate conception, for example.

I must say you're talking in tongues. I believe that mary's immaculate conception was stated in the bible with the business with the angel explaining things to Joseph. But whatever dude. I personally think that the odds of these guys finding anything are miniscule, because the basic SETI assumptions are trash. For example they assume that alien civilizations will be deliberately sending a very high power signal to us. Why would they? We're not sending anything to them.

58 posted on 10/12/2007 9:03:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: RightWhale

Thanks for your apodictic confirmation that the SETI program is a waste of time. They don’t follow good math protocols nor good statistics protocols, basically it’s bad science.


59 posted on 10/12/2007 9:40:08 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq— via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: DuncanWaring

And thus he went into writing fiction instead of studying science.


60 posted on 10/12/2007 9:43:32 AM PDT by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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