[Spiff]

But that is EXACTLY the problem. Joseph Smith is ALSO considered a gatekeeper. Moreover, to Mormons, even Christ can’t fully absolve you of your sins, it is a religion based on works (that’s why all the squeaky clean Mormons, they have to be to get Temple recommends and get into heaven, and then become Gods of their own). Moreover, which “Him” do they believe in? Cause there are questions about the trinity and other factors. There is also a sub debate about whether Adam was a God who gave seed to humans, so Jesus isn’t necessarily even in the loop.

I don't know if you're unintentionally ignorant about the actual beliefs of Mormons, or if you've been terribly mislead, or if you're just telling a pack of lies. What I do know is that nothing you've posted above is accurate about the actual beliefs of Mormons.

[MHGinTN]

"... nothing you've posted above is accurate about the actual beliefs of Mormons." Either you do not understand what the word 'nothing' means in your assertion or you have chosen to purposely mischaracterize what FC wrote, and since you Momronism apologists do it so frequently when being opposed, the best bet is the latter ... because you know there is a major disagrement between Orthodox Christianity and Mormonism over the Trinity: "Cause there are questions about the trinity and other factors." Fast Coyote

[tantiboh]

~”I don’t know if you’re unintentionally ignorant about the actual beliefs of Mormons, or if you’ve been terribly mislead, or if you’re just telling a pack of lies.”~

As you know from past conversations, FastCoyote has been corrected on these point on many occasions. He knows what he said is not true. At this juncture, it’s a 9th commandment issue.

[FastCoyote]

“I don’t know if you’re unintentionally ignorant about the actual beliefs of Mormons, or if you’ve been terribly mislead, or if you’re just telling a pack of lies. What I do know is that nothing you’ve posted above is accurate about the actual beliefs of Mormons.”

Nothing???? Yeah sure Spiff, I just make it all up, just like Joseph Smith did. I see everything through my Urim and Thumim, so you ought to believe everything I say.

But seriously folks, DON’T believe me. Just see for yourself which Christian church has NO crosses, NEEDS celestial polygamy in order to populate all the planets, and has it’s revelations based on a guy looking into his hat through seer stones.. See which church gets incredibly upset when you point out their Prophet/patriarch was a bank fraud/tinpot general/ secessionist. DON’T believe me, do your own work and then imagine having a president who has to defend his choice of underwear for eight years.

[Osage Orange]

I don't know if you're unintentionally ignorant about the actual beliefs of Mormons, or if you've been terribly mislead, or if you're just telling a pack of lies. What I do know is that nothing you've posted above is accurate about the actual beliefs of Mormons.

What you don't apparently get...is millions of Christians will NOT vote for a mormon..period. As the previous poster suggested.

Like it or not the history/founder of mormonism is EXTREMELY suspect....and fraudulent in the eyes of millions of Christians.

Why you/mormon's don't see that is a mystery actually.....

No one is attempting to mislead you Spiff..nor is it ignorant to make that statement...It's in fact, very factual. How Mr. Romney deals with that well be extremely interesting.