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Look Again At The Frost Facts...And Don't Back Down
freeper research, Baltimore Sun, Others ^ | 10-11-07 | icwhatudo

Posted on 10/11/2007 11:19:24 AM PDT by icwhatudo

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To: Age of Reason
And for any cabinets I might have, I was thinking stainless steel.

I installed high-end stainless steel cabinets in my former home and was disappointed at the endless problems with water spots, rusted joints around the doors, and overall coldness, both in winter, when they retained cold, in the sounds they emitted, and in "feeling."

121 posted on 10/12/2007 2:46:53 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: icwhatudo

Phony poor people!


122 posted on 10/12/2007 2:50:50 PM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: icwhatudo

Thanks for the update.


123 posted on 10/12/2007 2:53:14 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Leisler
Isn’t it odd that the GP’s gave to a day care center, enough to get named after themselves and, what, none to their grandkids?

In defense of the grandparents, the child care center they funded appears to be a memorial to their daughter. The wording of the web page is strange: it says "a living memorial", so it isn't 100% clear whether that means the daughter is still alive, but I take it to mean that it is a place for living children in memory of a deceased daughter.

When you figure what the average grandparents of means spend on their daughter and her children, the idea that they would instead give these funds to this church, which already has the real estate available, to supplement the tuitions at this nursery school does not offend me. I think it's a generous and useful way to remember their daugher.

Especially if they are also helping their son with their other grandchildren's tuitions, I just don't see why the grandparents should be targeted here, so much as their son, who has planned poorly for his family and now that his children have special needs, feels entitled to lash out at the president over not getting even more aid than has already been generously supplied by so many other sources.

124 posted on 10/12/2007 3:07:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: icwhatudo

istillluvwhatudo.

Excellent work, sir, you have singlehandedly shown how fast and loose the so-called guardians of the free press are with facts, and how they jump when their liberal masters tell them to.


125 posted on 10/12/2007 3:10:17 PM PDT by exit82 (Major General, Armchair Warriors USA)
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To: Beagle8U
If it was a Saturday the “on the way to school” part was likely more BS.

My kid went to school on Saturday for sports and activities. Sunday, too.

126 posted on 10/12/2007 3:12:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: cgbg
109 posted on 10/12/2007 7:03:06 AM EDT by cgbg ("I give you health care and I say 'no smoking'". "Yassah Miss Hillary.")

Shouldn't that be "Yass'm"?

127 posted on 10/12/2007 3:19:18 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: Ditto
My only point was that it's entirely possible that they did not spend a bundle of money on the kitchen as the originater of the thread implied and I advised that he should avoid that line of reasoning. Then, out of the blue, someone accused me of farting in the forum.

I understood your point about the cabinetry and had the same thought: the guy probably built them himself and already had the equipment. He may even have had some scrap materials.

As for farting in the forum, the Viking kitty did that. Eww — fish kibble!

128 posted on 10/12/2007 3:24:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: icwhatudo; pandoraou812
Its safe to say she would not have switched jobs away from one that offered health insurance to one that doesn't.

If she did then it would be her choice and a clear reflection of their priorities. The facts revealed to date clearly show ample opportunities and resources to secure health insurance for the entire family. It just isn't a priority to them and why would it be when they can get some other sucker to pay for it?

Great job, icwhatudo! Clear, concise, well researched and well formatted. Simply centuries ahead of present day journalism.

The Democrats have held up a no-need case that did get welfare, as somehow heart wrenching, to argue for increased welfare. That's the story.

129 posted on 10/12/2007 3:49:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I commend the grandparents.

What I am getting at is that the family, had/has more resources than they are letting on.

Frankly, I think they are gaming the system. I feel they are tax cheats, somewhere.


130 posted on 10/12/2007 3:51:15 PM PDT by Leisler (Sugar, the gateway to diabetes, misery and death. Stop Sugar Deaths NOW!)
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To: Age of Reason
Would stainless steel be a good idea for a counter-top?

In my previously life as a chef I would say yes. Commercial kitchens are virtually 100% SS. Cleaning is very easy. Infact you don't need any fancy cleaner, regardless of what SS appliance makers say. Plain old water with clorox in it is all you need.

Now, there are some disadvantages unless they are purpose built. Just a straight sheet of stainless won't work. Cutting boards slide all over. What you have done is get cutting boards made to how you want them for where you want them and have SS 'pegs' welded to the countertop and holes drilled in the cutting boards to match them. They won't go anywhere.

Plus, if you really want to have fun, do from the countertops down stainless, get a tile floor, and have a couple drains put in the floor. Then you can clean the kitchen with a hose!

131 posted on 10/12/2007 4:26:46 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Age of Reason
There's a point when one needs be honest with oneself by wondering if we're really doing something to save money--or if we're just using that as an excuse to play hooky from more important responsibilities.

It's all about what your time is worth. If you spend 200 hours in the shop building cabinets for yourself instead of a paying customer it means you want a new kitchen more than health insurance for your family. The profit from one typical kitchen job would be about enough for one year's insurance. The Frosts decided that comfort/status was worth more to them than security/health.

I am foursquare behind the liberty to make that choice. Just don't whine that others are unwilling to pay for the things you don't care that much about.

132 posted on 10/12/2007 4:53:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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ping to post 124


133 posted on 10/12/2007 5:03:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: HundredDollars
I agree with you that the attention to the accident is mostly irrelevant to this story. It only ties in in one way that I can see. From the description of the accident and injuries it seems quite likely that the kids weren't in child safety seats. I don't know what Maryland law is but child safety seats are pretty universal and easily available these days. No one has not heard of them.

What is the relevance of that? That, in combination with their choice not to have health insurance, shows how low the health and welfare of their children is on their priority list.

That may sound like a cold indictment but asking the taxpayers to feel sorry for them and then hand over their money is even colder. Were they waiting for a government program to buy them child seats?

134 posted on 10/12/2007 5:13:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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To: AppyPappy
More importantly, do scholarships or "aid" or someone else (grandparents) helping pay for tuition constitute income that needs to be reported.
135 posted on 10/13/2007 10:29:36 AM PDT by Bob J (sis)
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To: HundredDollars

greed, questions about the accident only diverts attention from the main question of whether the Halseys needed SCHIP and whether they misrepresented their income and assets when applying for it.


136 posted on 10/13/2007 10:33:54 AM PDT by Bob J (sis)
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To: HundredDollars

Agreed, questions about the accident only diverts attention from the main question of whether the Halseys needed SCHIP and whether they misrepresented their income and assets when applying for it.


137 posted on 10/13/2007 10:34:07 AM PDT by Bob J (sis)
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To: icwhatudo

Somebody needs to get in Hillary’s face and ask her why SHE is exploiting the Frost family, when they are such a perfect example of what’s wrong with ‘Hillary care’?


138 posted on 10/13/2007 10:37:36 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: mountn man
Didn't your mother ever teach you that farting in public is rude?

Evidently yours did not.

139 posted on 10/13/2007 10:59:35 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: HundredDollars
I think debating the accident details is counterproductive...

I agree with you. There only relevant question WRT to these people is should folks who chose not to get the insurance they clearly could have afforded be subsidized when they lose their gamble?

140 posted on 10/13/2007 11:06:17 AM PDT by edsheppa
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