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To: Caramelgal; jveritas
But if the Bible is correct, and Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died for our sins, the message is clear — Accept Jesus Christ.
”Accept Jesus Christ or what?
The New Testament of the Bible says, "the wages of sin is death [i.e., hell] but the gift of God is eternal life through our Lord Jesus Christ. There is no suggestion of the imposition by Christians of any penalty in this present world. In fact, a distinguishing feature of the New Testament as opposed to the Old Testament and the Koran is that the latter two are written under the presumption of theocracy, and the New Testament was written to and about Christians who were under government-sanctioned persecution. Consequently a far better case can be made that even Judaism, never mind Islam, is theocratic and intolerant in design than that Christianity is inherently such.
Do you advocate a Christian “Jihad” against non-Christians? Do you agree with Ann and advocate forced conversions?
The exact quotation you are referring to was,
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.
That was Ann's way of describing the mirror image of the aspirations of Osama ben Laden. Her point was not so much to make all Muslims Methodists but to define the existential nature of threat jihad posed to Western Civilization. Her point was that, subject to such a threat, our response was not properly a modest one but a blunt and unapologetic facing down of the threat.

The tenor of the questioning Ann was responding to in this thread's interview is a demand that America, founded in the Colonial era and re-founded in the settlement of the Louisiana Territory by heavily predominantly Christian immigrants, should apologize for having Christian cultural assumptions built into it. And that is precisely what Ann, both in this interview and in the "convert them" quote, was rejecting.


399 posted on 10/11/2007 4:31:53 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Just thinking of converting Moslems to Methodists and it occurred to me they'd be much happier if they were simply converted to "old school" Church of the Nazarene ~ it's like being a Methodist (same song book I believe), yet it's got a dresscode!

Definitely something to look into.

410 posted on 10/11/2007 4:49:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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