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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I wouldn’t be too quick to tell me what my theology is. You can of course share your own, that’s fair but I resent you telling me what I believe.

Wherever you got the idea that I believe Jesus does not have the power to save sinners is beyond bizarre.

It is true that to ask for mercy and to confess one’s sin will indeed lead to salvation. But Jesus said to all those he forgave to sin no more, and yet sinners never stop sinning. When they sin are they Christians? Of course not. For how many minutes of the day are they Christians?

And that’s the point. Many so-called Christians think they need only go to some gathering, sing hymns and quote scripture. When asked whether they are ainners they respond yes, because they know in the eyes of the herd they must say that. It is ritualistic.

My point is that many so-called Christians are not Christian. They merely call themsleves that. And they are conditioned to think that they need only join the herd to be saved.

A true Christian in my view is a person who prays and worships constantly, in private as well as public, who defers every thought and every encounter to their Lord for guidance, patience and strength. They live each moment requesting divine guidance. When they sin it is rare, it may be in the form of a moment of doubt, of anger at God, at cowardice in the service of others and so on. But the true Christian quickly recovers and allows guidance be given from above whether they are blessed to receive it directly or through a person they recognize as blessed in receiving it.

And lastly, to receive divine guidance and wisdom is a great blessing. Not all true Christians receive it but they recognize those that do as blessed.


333 posted on 10/11/2007 2:32:43 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
It is true that to ask for mercy and to confess one’s sin will indeed lead to salvation. But Jesus said to all those he forgave to sin no more, and yet sinners never stop sinning. When they sin are they Christians? Of course not. For how many minutes of the day are they Christians?
Romans Chapter 7
7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin.

7:15 For I don't know what I am doing. For I don't practice what I desire to do; but what I hate, that I do.

7:16 But if what I don't desire, that I do, I consent to the law that it is good.

7:17 So now it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me.

7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwells no good thing. For desire is present with me, but I don't find it doing that which is good.

7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.

7:20 But if what I don't desire, that I do, it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me.

7:21 I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present.

7:22 For I delight in God's law after the inward man,

7:23 but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members.

7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death?

So then, was the Apostle Paul (a.k.a. "Saint Paul" - author of the Epistle to the Romans and many other biblical epistles - a Christian, or was he a sinner?
7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.
The biblical answer seems to be, "Yes" - the two categories are not mutually exclusive.
Romans 6

1 What then shall we say? Shall we persist in sin that grace may abound? Of course not!


428 posted on 10/11/2007 5:13:36 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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