He may be right - that the word “socialism” has lost its power to evoke fear. In 1993-1994, we had just witnesses the collapse of socialist regimes around the globe, but that is now almost 15 years ago. In eastern Europe, they are running away from socialism like the plague - the ex-communist regimes are competing with eachother in lowering tax rates. Hillary is following the tactics of the British Fabian Society whose purpose was to advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means. For them, the collapse of avowed socialism was a short-term setback, but in time may prove to be boon, if it allows them to pursue the same goals without being tied to the socialist millstone. The Fabians help found the British “Labour” Party and now are calling themselves “progressives.”
“Hillary is following the tactics of the British Fabian Society”.
I have been waiting for a Freeper to mention the Fabians.
NKStarr , everything you say is true - except when you talk of the BRITISH Fabian Society .
It may have started here , but it is now Supernationalist (is that the right word ?) in its outlook . In fact , its primary goal is the erosion of the nation - state with mankind ruled by a Global government based in a third - world city . The FS , though originating in the West , actually loathes Western technology , Christianity , private enterprise , and is comprised of academics who are ashamed of their own societies . And if you think that the FS only has influence in British politics , you couldn’t be more wrong .
Just as the Clintons were made a model for the Labour Party in the early 90s , so the current exchange of ideas is presently making the reverse journey across th Ocean . Why do you think that the Clintons , Gore , Ed Kennedy and Jesse Jackson are all pushing for an American National Health Service ? Because they are members of the Fabians thats why !
In New York 3 years ago before the Pesidential election a very manic woman by the Rockfeller Centre informed me ( well more a case of ranted at me ) that there will be free healthcare , unlimited free housing , and taxation at 70 cents in the dollar because at least 50% of the US population will either (A) be dependent on the Govt for welfare payments , housing , and transport or (B) be employed by the Govt . She continued by saying by this point there needn’t be any opposition party or any elections , since her lot would provide everything and in any case ‘most people in this darned country aren’t fit to make decisions of State’ . At this point I asked her if she meant she would like to be part of a dictatorship .
‘Well yeah if you wanna call it that . And before you mention Mao and Pol Pot the stories about them are just Western bullshit . A few seconds later my Missus came out of a shop and we went on our way . next day I saw this woman’s masculine mug in a newspaper ; it turned out she was head of some Democrat action group in broadcasting , whatever the hell that meant.
Anyway , what puzzles me is the amount of people I’ve met in America’s East Coast cities who seem to hate the nation they were born with and are ashamed of it’s achievements. Mind you when alls said and done , there are a lot of them over here , and where I used to think they were amusing I now regard them as dangerous .