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To: glide625
No one wins under that scenario but truth be told, with a population 5 times that of the U.S. and a geographic size greater than that of the U.S. when you take into account the size of the region as a whole, China is far more likely to survive a nuclear exchange than is the U.S.

Uhhhhhh... China isn't that much bigger than the US, and much of it is desert... which is why they import so much food from us. Their population centers are very, very dense, and resources are scarce. They are like the Russians, with a few giant manufacturing and power grids set closely together rather than smaller ones spaced farther apart. Any armed conflict shuts down these areas, and the food supply, immediately.

Also, the Chinese have roughly 60-80 weapons capable of reaching the US. We have several thousand capable of reaching China. Hardly quid pro quo.
19 posted on 10/10/2007 2:13:45 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: snowrip
60-80 weapons

Make that "60-80 strategic nuclear weapons".
20 posted on 10/10/2007 2:15:23 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: snowrip
Also, the Chinese have roughly 60-80 weapons capable of reaching the US.

No telling how many of their thousands of medium and short range nuclear armed missile that they can squirrel away aboard container ships and sneak up to within range for a covert launching.

It is no accident that most all of their new missiles have demonstrated mobile-launching capabilities.

Remember how seriously provocative that Russia's missiles in Cuba were? The Chinese can vastly eclipse it...and also don't plan to tell us in advance how they will attack us...just as the Russians didn't bother before Cuban emplacements either.

31 posted on 10/10/2007 6:10:33 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: snowrip
Also, the Chinese have roughly 60-80 weapons capable of reaching the US. We have several thousand capable of reaching China. Hardly quid pro quo.

Yes, you are right. And that fact alone really proves that China isn't a threat. China puts considerably more resources towards civilian pursuits. No one will argue that China is now a significantly larger industrial power than Russia. Yet Russia maintains nearly a thousand nuclear tip missles that can hit the US. And they aint just missles laying around since the cold war. Missles have to be constantly upgraded to ensure that they work. This takes considerable resources, especially for a thousand of them.

China will consume roughtly 5-7 times as much steel as Russia, which goes to show how much bigger it is as a industrial nation (and in 15 year, I don't doubt will consume 10 times as much steel). However, how much more resource does it take to maintain a thousand missles in Russia as opposed to only 60-80 in China?

Though China's nuclear missles are more dated than the Russians, China does have the resources to build more than the Russians if they wanted to. But they don't. So, I don't understand the worry people have towards China. Especially in light of the lack of concern towards Russia. My bet is that in 15 years time, Russia will still have more nuclear tipped missles than China, but China will export 10 times as much in goods and services.

Russia is still the only other country in the world that can take out the entire United States, China cannot.

36 posted on 10/11/2007 12:13:22 PM PDT by ponder life
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