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To: Carry_Okie
As opposed to a case of massive ignorance?

It is the pinnacle of ignorance to willingly throw the election to your opponent in the vain hope that somehow that will make you stronger the next time around. In politics, losing doesn't make you stronger. It puts you further behind the eight ball. You've got to make up the ground you lost and then some in order to win.

You people better wake up out there. If you think Hillary! winning in '08 is going to open the doors to conservative victories in 2010 and 2012, you are sadly self-deluded. If Hillary wins in a blowout, as appears likely based on how things are now in the opposition, it's going to be like 1932 again. You'll be shut out of power for two generations. The 'Rats will see to that. They're going to destroy this Republic while you're sitting around sniping at our own candidates.

129 posted on 10/11/2007 6:18:31 AM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera
It is the pinnacle of ignorance to willingly throw the election to your opponent in the vain hope that somehow that will make you stronger the next time around.

It is the pinnacle of stupidity to willingly throw away the power of the vote. The black vote in America has become voiceless for a reason: they ALWAYS turn out for a Rat, no matter what. Thus, the Rats can ignore them because it doesn't matter what they do.

To support a RINO under the premise that it's better than a Rat is to ignore history. Every Rat-kissing RINO president since World War II has left the Republican Party in worse shape at the end of his term, throwing power to the Democrats, especially Nixon and the Bushes. Only Reagan left the people wanting more, and what they wanted was conservatism. "Electable" RINOS have made a mess of the California GOP as well. The only thing that saved Pete Wilson's sorry hide was his willingness to back a conservative Prop 187. This is to say nothing of what happened when the Party backed our current "fiscal conservative," who has increased spending and debt faster than his Rat predecessor, accelerated the construction of our regulatory prison, and gleefully signed every piece of pro-gay legislation but one.

History renders your claims into specious wailing. Treaties can be rescinded. Laws can be scrapped. It's hard, but unless the people realize where this goes, they won't take the medicine necessary to build the majorities sufficient to get it done. You are correct in one respect, the disease may be fatal. You are incorrect to believe that electing moderates will do anything to abate it. Socialism is fatal either way.

132 posted on 10/11/2007 6:46:38 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: chimera
You'll be shut out of power for two generations. The 'Rats will see to that. They're going to destroy this Republic while you're sitting around sniping at our own candidates.

Great. Then work to ensure that we do NOT helpt to elect a democrat---by nominating a liberal GUARANTEED to DIVIDE AND SPLIT the Party,,,while also demoralizing the base!! There's no better way to ensure a Hillary win that by doing just that.

137 posted on 10/11/2007 7:07:33 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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