There might be a wet spot left, after the Clinton/MSM steamroller gets finished with Ron Paul....
Posted on 10/10/2007 10:27:43 AM PDT by madprof98
New York U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton is one of the most loathsome modern American politicians, given her barely disguised support for massive government programs, her grating schoolmarm personality and her aggressive political behavior, yet I'm left hoping that she obliterates any of the front-running Republican candidates and has long-enough coattails to expand Democratic control of the Senate and House of Representatives.
Unless Republican candidate Ron Paul —- the only supporter of liberty in the bunch of GOP ne'er do wells —- somehow propels his impressive Internet campaign into an improbable electoral victory, there is nothing else, but a Clinton victory, that will save the Republican Party and help rebuild the nation's long-suffering freedom movement.
How can an enemy of freedom help freedom?
Well, when you've got a headache, you take an aspirin. When you've got the flu, you take something a little stronger. When you've got cancer, you need chemotherapy, which kills cancer cells but can come perilously close to killing the patient. It's a sad truth, but the Republican Party has the political equivalent of cancer.
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A Guiliani victory--indeed, a victory by any of the top GOP candidates--would cement the party's totalitarian tendencies. Even the party's social conservative wing, its most powerful grass-roots force, is ready to bolt if Giuliani gets the nomination.
Religious Right notables such as Focus on the Family's James Dobson and former presidential candidate Gary Bauer met recently in Salt Lake City to discuss backing a third-party candidate. These folks are no friends of liberty, either. Still, their defection could assure that increasingly likely Clinton victory.
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(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...
I heard some idiot caller on Hannity say that we need to go through a Jimmy Carter to get a Reagan. That person has NO historical or realistic concept of how bad things were. America basically got saved from the brink of destruction and got lucky. Hell, we are still paying for Jimmy Carter 27 years later.
Heaven forbid that these scumbags get back into the White House.
It is essential for republicans to put aside their differences and get behind the nominee - whoever he may be.
It's really a stupid thing to say. If we had re-elected Ford we could have avoided the disaster of the Carter years and still had Reagan when the time came. That's what people need to understand. We don't need to lose to win. We win by winning. Why can't people understand that?
Don't be so sure. Stalinism is as Stalinism does: the 'Rats will rig the system through gerrymandering, amnesty for illegal aliens, and outright fraud to prevent a Republican comeback from ever happening.
The really smart tactic of the Clinton campaign is to get Republicans to move her way and destroy their party in the future.
She may be evil but she isn’t dumb.
Naah, that'll be the 2nd. The first will be re-enactment of the 'Fairness Doctrine' by fiat.
Greenhut indeed has a libertarian bent and he recently bolted from the Republican Party out of disgust with big spending and other issues. But he is far from a lunatic, in fact being a great warrior for conservative causes, most recently California’s efforts to pass eminent domain legislation (that the CA GOP “leadership” got defeated with underhanded schemes).
The AJC piece is actually an excerpt of Greenhuts full column. They left out this hard-hitting part, as well as some other stuff:
http://www.ocregister.com/column/party-giuliani-republican-1881369-clinton-gop
The worst thing about Rudy: his love of government power. He showed it as a prosecutor, as he hauled supposed white-collar wrongdoers out of their Wall Street offices in handcuffs in front of the TV cameras, and as mayor as he defended even the most egregious abuses of police power, used his power to crack down on trivial offenses (jumping subway turnstiles, jaywalking, loitering). He constantly exploits 9/11 and his role in it and has earned millions of dollars giving speeches about that fateful day. This Giuliani quotation, from a 1994 speech, sums up his philosophy: “Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it.”
Great theory. Of course, it assumes that the country could survive a second Clinton administration. If not, the GOP’s resurgence would be a moot point.
Greenhut isn’t a nutjob. He’s a senior editorial writer and columnist for the
Orange Coutny Register, a right-leaning, large publication in California.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=greenhut
PARDON ME?
His anti-gun, authoritarian principles and big government solutions, don't alienate moderate Republicans? (They DO!)
Rudy is offensive on ALL fronts, not just the "social issues" that some of you mention in trying to marginalize the "value voters."
Ya mean like this? ;-)
"Most of [President] Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine"
--Rudolph Giuliani, New York Post, Jun 8, 1999 (restating RWG quote from 1996 )''I don't think tonight's result is tragic, I guess because I'm not that partisan a person ... I think President Clinton is a good man, he's a very decent man, and the country has run pretty well.''--Rudolph Giuliani, commenting on Bob Dole's loss in the 1996 presidential election. New York Times, Nov 7, 1996
Rooty has already said he would be for taxpayer funded abortion.
I can see there are many ..ahem.. conservatives on FR that don’t seem to have a problem with ending the life of a human. Do they also want to pay for the end of those lives?
If they do, they are not a conservative in any way they can honestly claim. They are only a Rudy rooter who I guess do not mind that the idea is not fiscally conservative by any stretch.
This is a Rudy supporter. why worry about principle or fiscal matters? We will elect our own liberal. Sick.
Its a lot like saying, “The Republic is dying and Hillary is here with a pillow for its face.”
Pretty stupid premise. I remember back in 1992, when somebody in (the nominally libertarian) Reason magazine endorsed Bill Clinton for much the same reason.
And we all know how well that worked....
Out of those two comments alone, Hillary could forge the perfect campaign ad.
Vote for me, and Rudy has approved this ad! LOL!
More like: The Republic is dying and Hillary is here to sit on its face.
Please note that after the 2006 losses, pro-war conservatives are already throwing in the towel for 2008, rather than turning to the obvious candidate who can actually beat Hillary: Ron Paul. It seems like some conservatives have a death wish on that issue.
They are pretty easy to pick out, aren’t they.
I never considered myself a “values voter” or a “social conservative.” I’m usually much more concerned with economic issues.
That some try to paint Rudy as only liberal on “social issues” is a bald-faced lie (IMO).
There might be a wet spot left, after the Clinton/MSM steamroller gets finished with Ron Paul....
Even if the Hildabeast turns the WOT into a global Vietnam, it will mostly be fought in the various Turdistans elsewhere.
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