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To: Colofornian
Good question, my FRiend, but already answered in my post 68 above:

"I expect that the Church leadership used this as a "focus group" to confirm what many have perceived as the sad, sheep-like state of too many LDS youngsters who have been educated in the liberal cesspools that we refer to as "public schools" and whose admiration of Dirty Hairy is about as much as they are able to muster by way of youthful rebellion.

I also expect that there soon will be a house-cleaning at the increasing liberal, albeit Church-owned, Deseret News and at BYU itself.

I take the Deseret News account with a grain of salt, having already heard conflicting reports from several BYU students concerning the level of enthusiasm and worship accorded to Dirty Harry the Red as reported by the Deserted News.

The Church cleaned out its KSL radio and television operation a few years back after it started feeling its liberal oats and its married news director was excommunicated after having an affair with a subordinate who also was married.

Finally, Dirty Harry fell into a neat little trap when he dissed the memory of Ezra Taft Benson and other revered past and present Church leaders and smeared many things that even relatively sane Democrats value.

I suspect that his sizeable base of "Mormon" and a lot of non-LDS voters in "Nirvada" is now swirling down the porcelain throne as we speak.

To paraphrase Reid's intellectual and moral superior, the fictional Forrest Gump, "Effrontery, arrogance, apostacy, and rudeness to one's host is as effrontery, arrogance, apostacy, and rudeness to one's host.

Good show, Hairy. You just shot yourself in the family jewels, such as they are..."

Do you think I have called this correctly? Honest and friendly question....

72 posted on 10/10/2007 11:59:24 AM PDT by tracer
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To: tracer
I take the Deseret News account with a grain of salt, having already heard conflicting reports from several BYU students concerning the level of enthusiasm and worship accorded to Dirty Harry the Red as reported by the Deserted News.

Again, you don't have to take anybody's report of the speech, salt or no salt. (Reid's pre-speech text is already online--although his caustic "evangelical" remark was apparently an afterthought of his and is not in the text) One blogger said that "maybe half" of the student stood up for the ovation...now while that could be an overestimate, it sounds like your "quite small" guess is "quite" an underestimate.

I also expect that there soon will be a house-cleaning at the increasing liberal, albeit Church-owned, Deseret News and at BYU itself.

Hey, Harry Reid's "testimony" is part of the Deseret Book published, "Why I Believe" from 2002. Deseret's been pushing Reid for 5 years (doesn't sound like there's any rush to house-cleaning).

As for BYU, would that include the dean of the College of Family, Home and Sciences, David Magleby. (I don't think so). How did Magleby recently describe Reid's forthcoming campus forum? Allow me to quote Magleby:

Senator Harry Reid...will be speaking at Tuesday's forum assembly. As Senate Majority Leader, he is the first member of the LDS Church to lead his party in either the House or the Senate. He is a convert to the church who is frequently described as a committed member of the church. Whether we do or do not agree with Senator Reid on any particular policy matter, he deserves our respect and appreciation for his long career in public service. Within the church there can be and should be room for disagreement about political matters. At the 1968 Commencement exercises President Hugh B. Brown encouraged students to "strive to develop a maturity of mind and emotion, and a depth of spirit which will enable you to differ with others on matters of politics without calling into question the integrity of those with whom you differ. Allow within the bounds of our definition of religious orthodoxy a variation in political belief. Do not have the temerity to dogmatize on issues where the Lord has seen fit to be silent."

So Magleby, who already knew Reid's position on protecting marriage (or rather as not protecting marriage), saw fit to toss in a quote, "Do not have the temerity to dogmatize on issues where the Lord has seen fit to be silent." [Well, Golly Gee Mr. BYU dean of College of Family, Home and Social Sciences, we just didn't know that the Lord was silent on matters like marriage]

expect that the Church leadership used this as a "focus group" to confirm what many have perceived as the sad, sheep-like state of too many LDS youngsters who have been educated in the liberal cesspools that we refer to as "public schools" and whose admiration of Dirty Hairy is about as much as they are able to muster by way of youthful rebellion. I also expect that there soon will be a house-cleaning at the increasing liberal, albeit Church-owned, Deseret News and at BYU itself.

And I suppose since BYU-TV is going repeat Reid's speech eral timesr the next few weeks is yet a further extension of applying a "focus group" test to TV audiences at-large, including the vast number of Mormon adults who watch the program (especially the ones not prominently involved in "youthful rebellions).

And I suppose your "ouse-cleaning" theory will apply to BYU-TV as well?

And, of course, while SLC HQ didn't want to put tape over a guest speaker's mouth...now that he has gone on record to call Evangelicals (the "far right" as being the most "anti-Christian" monsters there could possibly be, we don't see SLC HQ rush into weigh in on BYU-TV's programming staff, now do we?

I guess that truly shows what the LDS general authorities & SLC HQ bureaucrats think of Evangelicals. (Any chance of your "house-cleaning" theory applying to them as well?)

73 posted on 10/10/2007 1:25:03 PM PDT by Colofornian
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