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Do you believe her? (no, not Hillary....the woman who claimed all the holes in one)
espn ^ | Oct 2007 | Dave Kindred

Posted on 10/09/2007 8:43:31 PM PDT by doug from upland

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To: JLS

Did ABC participate in a fraud on camera?


21 posted on 10/09/2007 10:20:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

“Did ABC participate in a fraud on camera?”

I wouldn’t put it past them. How many people would have to be in on it, a half-dozen maybe? I’m sure more than that knew about CBS’s “fake but accurate” haox.


22 posted on 10/09/2007 10:35:17 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

she is gay

http://www.jacquelinegagne.com/blog/


23 posted on 10/09/2007 10:41:32 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: hole_n_one

Courtesy ping. Please pick up the red phone.


24 posted on 10/09/2007 10:50:11 PM PDT by Balata
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To: doug from upland
Your list was not complete:

Other aces

A sample of career holes-in-one, including casual rounds.

Player Aces Witnesses
William J. Clinton 173 None

25 posted on 10/09/2007 10:50:37 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Michael.SF.

Dereliction of Duty
By Mary Walsh
Human Events | Wednesday, April 02, 2003

Thwack! Another nail drives into the coffin of Bill Clinton’s legacy.

No other president in recent memory has pursued a “legacy” with such reckless abandon only to have it repeatedly exposed as a smoke and mirrors extravaganza based on arrogance, ignorance and selfishness.

Dereliction of Duty is the personal account of Lt. Col. “Buzz” Patterson while he served the nation during the Clinton administration as one of the carriers of the “nuclear football.”

In retrospect, it is easy to see how Clinton’s loathing of the American military led to his failure in his primary responsibility: the protection of the American people. Webster’s Family dictionary defines “betray” as “. . . to be unfaithful in guarding or fulfilling: to betray a trust.” Dereliction of Duty leaves little doubt about the cost of Clinton’s betrayal.

As President, Bill Clinton’s actions with regard to military preparedness speak for themselves. In less than three years, deployments increased while manpower decreased from 2.1 million to 1.6 million. That was, of course, Al Gore’s dirty little secret about the “reinvention” of government. As Patterson recounts, out of the 305,000 employees removed from the federal payroll, 286,000 (or 90%) of those were military cuts.

The statistics for America’s defense during the Clinton years reveal the deep-seated animosity of the administration toward those who wore her country’s uniform. The Army was cut from 18 divisions to 12. The Navy was reduced from 546 ships to 380. Air Force flight squadrons were cut from 76 to 50. The flower power children of the sixties apparently were quite comfortable divvying up pieces of the peace pie.

While the U.S. military was used as a ‘meals on wheels’ service by the Clinton administration in its nation building adventures, the military had its own humanitarian crises at home on its own bases. Patterson points out that the pay freeze instituted by Clinton was imposed on a military in which 80% of our troops made $30,000 or less.

Food stamp applications soared and re-enlistment rates dropped.

Despite the dearth of good news contained in his book, Col. Patterson is not motivated by a personal vendetta against his former boss but a conviction that such a man should never reside in the White House again as commander-in-chief.

“I arrived in this position filled with professional devotion and commitment to serve. I left disillusioned and disheartened.” Patterson felt that Clinton regarded the “country as a mass to be manipulated rather than defended.” As a combat veteran of tours in Grenada, Somalia, Rwanda, Haiti and Bosnia, service at the White House proved difficult for the dedicated airman used to order, discipline and respect.

Character Flaws

Doubts about a president who cut and spread the military were common in all ranks. “Damn near all” of Patterson’s military associates viewed the administration’s military policies as “open-ended” and “rudderless.” It’s never good for a soldier on a mission to go in asking himself the question, “Why the hell am I here?” but that’s exactly what was happening in Haiti. Criticism of the chief was new and widespread.

********** Character flaws often show up in the minutia of life. Take, for example, the golf cheat sheet which Patterson wrote down while following Clinton on the golf course. Patterson and the White House doctor kept the real score, which was 92, but Clinton awarded himself a 79 that day. **********

As the carrier of the nuclear football, Patterson was astounded that Clinton repeatedly said on the campaign trail no American children would have to go to sleep with nuclear missiles pointed at them. Such a statement was patently untrue. Conversations overheard in the car most often did not revolve around foreign policy issues but subpoenas, lawyers and executive privilege. They had priorities and national security was not one of them.

The nuclear football goes everywhere with the President. Several days after testifying in the Paula Jones deposition, Patterson went to exchange the codes for the football with the president only to find that he didn’t have them. “I don’t have mine on me. I’ll track it down, guys, and get back to you.” They turned the White House upside down and still didn’t find them.

Patterson notes that in the wake of the president’s troubles with women, the White House staff referred to attractive women as “security risks.” That day he realized, “The biggest security risk was the president himself.” One would think the top priority was to find the codes but then one has to remember that this was the Clinton White House. The chief worry for John Podesta and Bruce Lindsey was that this story might find its way to the press.

Patterson continued to serve in an administration which was “renowned for its lack of professionalism and courtesy.” Hillary Clinton was no exception and was known for her temper, her own personal “football” (a box of files) and for attempting to keep Bill in line. Patterson also paints a less than flattering portrait of the Rodham brothers who also used the White House staff as their personal servants.

Abusing the privilege of rank, Patterson recalls that Hillary threw a fit when Chelsea forgot her back pack after a Renaissance weekend and arrived in St. Thomas with upcoming exams but without her school books. Chelsea, a senior in high school, was not responsible for her own books. The blame was assigned to the White House valets. Clueless at best, as to what shuttling the first family around involves, Hillary once demanded that Marine One return to the White House so she could retrieve her forgotten sunglasses. She used government aircraft for her junkets to New York while campaigning for senator aboard AF C-9A’s or C-20’s, which operate at $3,366 and $3,587 per hour respectively.

Botched Opportunities

One of Clinton’s distinct talents was the empathetic “I feel your pain” charade. Take for instance the flight above tornado-ravaged Florida as Clinton, Lockhart and Lindsey played cards aboard Marine One. Patterson recalls, “When it was time to align Marine One with the press helicopter for a picture, the president quickly peered out the window, feigning an interested and grief-stricken expression. The sole reason for the trip, in his mind apparently, was for that photograph.”

Along with the lack of respect for the military went a failure to understand its purpose. One of Hillary’s staffers remarked on a drive through South Africa that she was appalled by the poverty. Didn’t they have a military to do something about this? The Clintons saw the military primarily as a humanitarian organization, not as a professional force to defend the country. CNN diplomacy meant that if human suffering was on CNN, American troops would be there.

Osama bin Laden and his terrorist related activities were well known to the United States by 1995. Clinton had an opportunity to catch him in the fall of 1998, but was unavailable. When he was finally reached, further consultation was needed with various secretaries. The two-hour window in which bin Laden could have been caught was lost.

In one of his most damning quotes Patterson opines, “This lost bin Laden hit typified the Clinton administration’s ambivalent, indecisive way of dealing with terrorism. Ideologically, the Clinton administration was committed to the idea that most terrorists were misunderstood, had legitimate grievances and could be appeased, which is why such military action as the administration authorized was so halfhearted, and ineffective, and designed more for ‘show’ than for honestly eliminating a threat.”

Hits on Americans by Islamic fundamentalists associated bin Laden continued through the decade as the price for an administration, which was indeed derelict in its duties and traitorous in its effect. The nation was at risk while the commander-in-chief golfed, cavorted, dialogued or was otherwise unavailable for the ultimate task of defense against a foreign enemy. Pray, that we may we never again be subjected to such a man (or woman) as president.


26 posted on 10/09/2007 11:09:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: machogirl

Well, lesbians are good at finding the hole.


27 posted on 10/10/2007 12:33:12 AM PDT by Defiant ("Expectorate" has Specter in it.)
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To: doug from upland

Did ABC participate or get taken with yet another seeded cup on a par 3? I can not say. I know this much if I were watching this woman hit a shot like that, I would certainly look through the green to see where the ball she actually hit ended up.

The camera work is very amateurish, going out of focus when the shot moved to the green. It would be pretty easy to seed a cup, hit two or three balls, scream with excitement, run across in front of the camera and claim the ball went in. The camera man looking through the lens had little chance to see where the actual shot went.


28 posted on 10/10/2007 12:44:14 AM PDT by JLS
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To: doug from upland

I know I played golf for 25 years and never had a hole in one. Closest I ever came was an eagle on a par 4, a total accident and one of the worst shots I ever hit. So, I tend to doubt her story.


29 posted on 10/10/2007 12:50:50 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: doug from upland

1. She is genuinely hitting repeated aces, in which case she is the greatest golfer who has ever lived

2. She is telekinetic (i.e. she has ESP) and is somehow manipulating reality to produce the holes-in-one.

3. She is able to convince people that she has made hese holes-in-one using some form of legitimate psychological manipulation, in which case she is a talented fraud.

4. She is a con artist, using some form of sleight-of-hand to “plant” the ball.

5. She is a con artist, using confederates to plant the ball.


30 posted on 10/10/2007 12:58:41 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: doug from upland
Also, conspicuously missing from that list is Tom Kite. Bet he had a few.

From "Harvey Pennick's Little Red Book",

He is an analytical person and a perfectionist. One day he asked me to watch him hit iron shots to the green. They looked perfect to me. "What's wrong with them?" I asked.

"They're flying about a foot too high"......

I'd ask him to aim at a canister out on the practice range and draw the ball into it one time and fade it the next....."Hey Tommy, fade the ball into that canister." It put pressure on him, and most of the time he hit the target.....

31 posted on 10/10/2007 1:28:28 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: doug from upland

Listen everybody, stop being so damn cynical.

If it’s possible, with no prior experience, to turn $1,000 into $100,000 in ten months by investing in cattle futures, then it’s certainly possible to hit seven holes in one.


32 posted on 10/10/2007 2:10:07 AM PDT by Wil H (Turning $1000 into $100,000 through cattle futures requires the "willing suspension of disbelief")
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To: ElkGroveDan

I pulled this same crap as a kid. We played in following foursomes. I would have a friend of mine in the group ahead of us drop a ball like mine in the cup as they replaced the pin. I would shank one in the trees (without even trying!) and someone else always found my ball in the hole while I was picking up my real ball in the trees.

I did it as a joke.

Find out who was in the foursome ahead (probably her “partner”) and you will know who was dropping the ball.


33 posted on 10/10/2007 2:36:04 AM PDT by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: Enchante

I just read her post for October 8. She wrote, “David Kindred is the one who wanted to make a name for himself and he did by telling lies about me and bad reporting. He has twisted the facts around to sell books. He also does not like women golfers and said we can’t stand up to the men. HELLO LADIES!! If I ever have another hole in one …. David, you’ll be the last to know!”

Well that clears things up. David Kindred hates women.

As for the facts, she doesn’t really go into much detail. True or not, this was an interesting story.


34 posted on 10/10/2007 5:30:30 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Defiant

ooooooooooooooh


35 posted on 10/10/2007 6:55:34 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: onedoug

ping


36 posted on 10/10/2007 8:37:31 AM PDT by windcliff
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