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I see no privacy issues or safety problems with this at all.
1 posted on 10/09/2007 8:08:46 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded
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Except for when Big Brother doesn’t want you driving somewhere.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 8:10:12 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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An incentive to kill the driver. I feel safer already.


3 posted on 10/09/2007 8:10:56 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Didn’t they have this for sometime?


4 posted on 10/09/2007 8:13:13 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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Like no one saw this coming.......

Wait until you’re late on your property tax bill for your new SUV...and Da Man shuts it off until you pay up sucka!!!!!


10 posted on 10/09/2007 8:17:31 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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And when your car starts to slow in the high speed lane on the interstate?
Holy wrong number, Batman, I dialed 555-1213 but that car isn't slowing. (Meanwhile on the cross town expressway in a vehicle with the tag 555-1214, Joe Schmo was heard to say "what the heck is going on with my car!")

11 posted on 10/09/2007 8:17:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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Related item from August 2006

Great Britain Satellites on speeders (Motorcycles' engine to be cut off via satellite - cars next)

 

12 posted on 10/09/2007 8:17:55 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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When insurance companies pay for these features, then I’ll know that they make economic sense.


14 posted on 10/09/2007 8:20:52 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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i’ll believe it when i see it.

where i live cars are stolen routinely.

my pickup about seven weeks ago was stolen on a friday night.

i got it back on sunday afternoon, undamaged, fortunately.

an illegal called me to tell me where it was located; the police couldn’t find it because it was behind an apartment building.

the police said local teens often need to use a pickup to move something, and abandon it when they’re thru.


15 posted on 10/09/2007 8:24:31 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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Hmm. I’ve been eying a 1960 Plymouth Savoy that’s been for sale next door to my church...
17 posted on 10/09/2007 8:35:51 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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OnStar is the reason I won’t even consider GM vehicles anymore. Too bad, because of all American car makers I used to like GM the best. Others had bad luck, for example, with the Chevy Citation, but mine worked just fine the whole time I had it.

There are too many encroachments on privacy as it is.

I don’t need another.


19 posted on 10/09/2007 8:41:28 PM PDT by Air Force Brat
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It will not stop the thieves from trying .

All of the new GM vehicles have built in anti-theft systems already , so the thieves cannot start the vehicle unless they have the proper transponder keys .
If thieves are driving the vehicle , chances are that the owner left the keys in the ignition or stole them from the owner .


21 posted on 10/09/2007 8:42:41 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
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For those who still bother to steal GM vehicles, this will be a signal to avoid them, except as chop-shop bait. When the entire vehicle quickly disappears into the parts bins, kind of difficult to track it down with GPS or this latest whiz-bang.

But, why bother to steal a GM car when you can grab a Honda, BMW, or Toyota? Inefficient use of time.


24 posted on 10/09/2007 8:58:15 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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Great idea! Since everything on a modern car is programmed through the computer, it shouldn’t be too hard to tell the computer to speed-limt the vehicle to 15 MPH. I like the McGruff-like voice telling the thief to pull over too.

We have Onstar in our Saturn Ion, and have never used it, but we do like the security of knowing it’s there as we travel quite a bit in the car.


25 posted on 10/09/2007 9:11:02 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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Little chance that OnStar will ever be installed in my 1990 Geo Metro.
26 posted on 10/09/2007 9:12:20 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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“GM would be willing to sell the technology to other automakers in an effort to cut police chases”

GM taking a page from Bill Gates: who needs to sell the computers, just sell the OS for all of them.

That is the way to riches and away from the UAW!

(Oh sorry. All of the computers except for the 4 or 5% running an Apple OS. Let's just hope GM doesn't “brick” their cars if owners decide to change their oil at a jiffy lube.)

30 posted on 10/09/2007 10:25:18 PM PDT by JSteff (Reality= realizing you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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“’If the thief does nothing else it will coast to a stop. But they can drive off to the side of the road,’ Huber said.”

We’re talking about criminals, moron - what if they just leave it in the middle of the highway and run off? Is GM going to pay the bills of the first poor schlub to ram into one?

34 posted on 10/09/2007 10:45:29 PM PDT by decal ("Never allow a nervous female to have access to a pistol, no matter what you're wearing")
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I basically disabled my Onstar in my Silverado when I put in an aftermarket sound system. I remember some years ago a story about how the Feds were able to turn on a drug dealers Onstar without him knowing it and they were able to record everything going on in the vehicle. There is something for the paranoids out there. I do think its a good idea but it could also be grossly misused. I remember the The Sixth Day and how Onstar in the near future was remotely piloting the car.
37 posted on 10/10/2007 4:08:30 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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Great publicity for GM and the On Star product, but most chop shops have the cars stripped within a couple of hours, well before the owner knows it’s stolen.


38 posted on 10/10/2007 4:15:31 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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A few months ago, my Brother's beautiful Truck was stolen from the side of his business establishment.

He called On Star and they said they had the vehicle located and it was parked about 20 miles from his place.

On Star would NOT tell him where the truck was located. He had to notify the police and they were instructed to call On Star to get the location information. There are more than a few good reasons why OnStar wants law enforcement involved to retrieve the car.

He got it back.

sw

41 posted on 10/10/2007 5:03:45 AM PDT by spectre (spectre's wife (Susan Estrich, "Hillary sucks all the oxygen out of the room".)
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I don't like the Big Brotherish aspects of what GM has already done with OnStar. Your car is prebugged so police can listen by asking GM, etc. Presently I think GM demands a warrant but they could change their mind. So many corporations today think they're doing the right thing by waiving the BOR on behalf of a third party and not making the government jump through all the hoops the Constitution requires.

Not that I think they'd actually be interested in anything going on in my car, but I don't think it's healthy to let them get into the habit of doing their jobs without crossing every t and dotting every i. Every little bit of empowerment the government gets in domestic law enforcement is a little less power in our hands. That can't be a good thing.

And then to add insult to injury, I think some of these LoJack type services will not tell the subscriber where the transmitter is but will only tell law enforcement. If I wanted to know at all times where my vehicle was, I think I'd get one of the cell phones whose location you can see on the internet and leave it in the car. Then I am in control of the information and can use it or release it as I see fit.

42 posted on 10/10/2007 10:24:03 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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