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1 posted on 10/09/2007 5:15:25 PM PDT by SandRat
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Illegal Alien Immigration PING


2 posted on 10/09/2007 5:16:10 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

bump


3 posted on 10/09/2007 5:18:55 PM PDT by VOA
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To: SandRat

Pulling for the union, looks like. They’re the ones on the front lines, not the desk jockeys who have to brownnose civic pols.


4 posted on 10/09/2007 5:19:09 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Take your silver spoon and dig your grave)
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Its long past time to start punishing cities and states that practice sanctuary for illegals.


8 posted on 10/09/2007 5:31:44 PM PDT by DesScorp
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I don’t blame them. The pols make the policy, but in the public opinion the cops get blamed.

The thought of a LEO being reprimanded for enforcing a federal law is just a little disgusting.


9 posted on 10/09/2007 5:33:23 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: (n) The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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Phoenix cops call for end to immigration policy in city

GOOD for them !!

IIRC it was Phoenix cops that said the city's murder rate dropped about 30% with some added security @ our border.

11 posted on 10/09/2007 5:57:29 PM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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The Chief is creating a phony dichotomy. This isn’t about enforcing immigration laws on a daily basis, it’s about simple fairness. Those who ‘only’ committed a traffic violation will, upon being asked for a drivers license, probably produce a phony one. They’ll also be driving without insurance, and probably driving an unregistered vehicle. All of those are crimes. If they’re cited and released, they will have given a phony address and won’t show up in court, making the citation meaningless. So, you end up letting illegals ‘skate’ while legals experience consequences when they disobey the laws.

There’s nothing wrong with insisting on knowing who you’re actually dealing with so you can enforce the laws uniformly. If that involves ICE having to do a fingerprint check because the guy gave you a phony ID, and that check turns up a warrant, so be it.


14 posted on 10/09/2007 6:22:33 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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Traitor Sutton is looking for a way to arrest these cops.


15 posted on 10/09/2007 6:26:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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Ping!


17 posted on 10/09/2007 6:43:27 PM PDT by HiJinx (Marine to Gen Pace: "Sir, thanks for your service. We’ll take it from here.")
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Harris is a police chief which means that he is a political whore, and will do whatever his master, the mayor or equivalent, tells him to do.


23 posted on 10/09/2007 7:35:45 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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"Harris said the policy centers on immigrants who haven’t committed a crime and are suspected only of entering the country illegally."

Ahhhhh, excuse me did Harris say "centers on immigrants"? If they're immigrants, they are legal.

25 posted on 10/09/2007 8:23:48 PM PDT by Slip18 (Fred Thompson for POTUS 2008)
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About two years ago I was cruising around on real estate sites looking at the possibilty of buying a second home in AZ, NM, or elsewhere in the Southwest.

These were real estate sites and forums, not political forums like FR, but I was surprised at the huge number of extremely negative comments *by current residents* about the illegal alien problem and how it had effected their communities: lots of expressions about increased crime, trash, drunk driving, etc. And a general sense of less security and even being under seige in some cases.

Obviously I’ve stopped looking for a place in the Southwest. Even St. George Utah seemed to have problems!


28 posted on 10/10/2007 6:57:52 AM PDT by angkor ("California, Is nice to the homeless, California, Supercool to the homeless..." South Park 11.07)
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ping


31 posted on 10/10/2007 9:24:31 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Los Angeles is a sanctuary city. Special Order 40 prevents police from even mentioning or asking about immigration status. This policy helps make Los Angeles illegal alien heaven, and the little jerk Mexican mayor Villaraigosa revels in it.

The police chief (Bratton) has done nothing but suck up to the sanctuary city policy. He's useless.

32 posted on 10/10/2007 9:54:00 AM PDT by janetgreen
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The policy prevents police officers from asking federal immigration authorities for assistance in situations where illegal immigrants commit civil traffic violations.

Doesn't federal law trump municipal policy?

Under section 642(a) of IIRIRA, a “Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.”

35 posted on 10/10/2007 4:09:48 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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So, the final “Stand-Off” has begun.
39 posted on 10/10/2007 7:37:57 PM PDT by modican
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