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To: Aquinasfan
Luke 11:11? Now, that's persuasive! Just so you know, as unnatural as I am, I don't give my kids snakes when they ask for fish either. Isn't that amazing?!

Because you seem to find Luke 11:11 far more compelling than I do, please note that Jesus doesn't say NATURAL fathers. "Fathers" is good enough for him, but I guess you think you know better, and that making distinctions that demean parents unlike yourself is a good idea.

I also notice that you skipped over including adoptive fathers in your incest/abuse stats. I suppose that's because they don't fit your agenda, in that they don't have higher rates than the NATURAL.

74 posted on 10/10/2007 6:55:50 AM PDT by Artist
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To: Artist
Luke 11:11? Now, that's persuasive! Just so you know, as unnatural as I am, I don't give my kids snakes when they ask for fish either. Isn't that amazing?! Because you seem to find Luke 11:11 far more compelling than I do, please note that Jesus doesn't say NATURAL fathers. "Fathers" is good enough for him, but I guess you think you know better, and that making distinctions that demean parents unlike yourself is a good idea.

I think it's reasonable to assume that Jesus was speaking of natural fathers. But it's certainly possible that He was including adoptive fathers in his rhetorical question, since the care of widows and orphans was considered the highest form of charity among Jews, and the act of adoption obviously reflects the operation of grace.

I also notice that you skipped over including adoptive fathers in your incest/abuse stats.

There's a logical reason for this, since adoptive fathers are categorically different from stepfathers and, obviously, live-in boyfriends. Adoptive parents almost always choose to have adopted children, whereas the same cannot be assumed for stepfathers, and especially live-in boyfriends.

I suppose that's because they don't fit your agenda, in that they don't have higher rates than the NATURAL.

I don't know what the rates are, but presumably the abuse rate would be much closer to that of natural fathers than stepfathers and live-in boyfriends, for the aforementioned reason.

77 posted on 10/10/2007 7:48:34 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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