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Bush fights Texas over Mexican's death row case
Houston Chronicle ^ | October 7, 2007

Posted on 10/09/2007 9:46:25 AM PDT by uxbridge

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To: uxbridge

If SCOTUS rules in favor of the International Court then you can pretty much kiss the Constitution goodbye.


61 posted on 10/09/2007 3:03:46 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! NFL's all-time touchdown leader)
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To: processing please hold

And everyone laughs at one currency. Bush is giving up The United States rights to the UN.

What A Traitor!!!!!!! Clinton is being handed what is left of this country on a golden platter.

Where are the patriots? Where is God?


62 posted on 10/09/2007 3:03:56 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: uxbridge

GWBush helps out this Mexican POS to skate on the death penalty. But has GW ever said anything about Border Agents Ramos and Compean. They must be bad Mexicans. Bush’s good Mexicans are the ones who invade America


63 posted on 10/09/2007 3:26:01 PM PDT by dennisw (France needs a new kind of immigrant — one who is "selected, not endured" - Nicholas Sarkozy)
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To: Dante3

When it comes to Mexico, it’s almost like someone has a hold over him, isn’t it.


64 posted on 10/09/2007 4:09:33 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

It sure is. Or a fetish or compulsion?


65 posted on 10/09/2007 4:45:46 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Bush's action is bizarre. That he would support for this horrific rapist/pedophile/killer creates disturbing implications.

Personally, it makes me ill.

66 posted on 10/09/2007 5:38:13 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: processing please hold; Borax Queen; nicmarlo; hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl
Good post!

"It's the first time in the history of this nation that any foreign tribunal has asserted its authority to command the U.S. justice system," Cruz said.

Here we go with those d@@@@@@@@@@m tribuuuuuuunals. UnAmerican. If the white house wins, then you can kiss our way of life gone.

Look what was said at the end of this article:

Excerpt....

"New York lawyer Donald Francis Donovan, who will argue on behalf of Medellin at the Supreme Court, said the case is about showing the international community that the U.S. lives up to its treaty obligations. "What's at stake is the U.S. commitment to the rule of law," he said.

Cruz calls the administration's decision "breathtaking."

"With the stroke of a pen, by writing a two-paragraph memorandum to a Cabinet official, the president can set aside any state law he or she deems contrary to international comity," Cruz said.

Texas courts: Claim forfeited

Texas courts have found repeatedly that under state law, Medellin has no right to challenge his conviction and sentence, even if the Vienna treaty was violated. There is no dispute that Medellin wasn't notified of his treaty rights when he was arrested, but the state has argued he failed to raise that objection at trial, forfeiting the claim.

The litigation has bounced between Texas and the U.S. Supreme Court for years over procedural issues. On Wednesday, the appeal will finally be considered on the merits.

Michael Matheson, a law professor at George Washington University, said the Vienna Convention and other treaties protect Americans abroad who are charged with crimes. He also cites the need to maintain a good relationship with Mexico.

But Kent Scheidegger of the California-based Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a victims-rights advocacy group, said the case is about a heavy-handed federal government interfering with state affairs. His group has filed a brief with the Supreme Court on behalf of the parents of Jennifer Ertman. The brief said the girl would be 29 now and "her parents have waited longer for justice to be done in this case than Jennifer lived her entire, much too short, life."

One of Medellin's fellow gang members was executed last year, with Jennifer Ertman's father present as a witness"

67 posted on 10/09/2007 7:18:01 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: gathersnomoss
Where is God?

Crying.

68 posted on 10/09/2007 7:25:54 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: texastoo
Thank you.

Here we go with those d@@@@@@@@@@m tribuuuuuuunals. UnAmerican. If the white house wins, then you can kiss our way of life gone.

I agree. Many on here still refuse to believe that.

69 posted on 10/09/2007 7:28:31 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: uxbridge
Siding with Mexico on every issue isn't going to keep them from getting chummy with Cuba and Venezuela. ...just as holding Ramadan dinners in the WH and declaring Islam a "religion of peace and love" isn't going to win any Muslim "hearts and minds." All futile.

Looking for a legacy, George? Kill the Iranian nuke program before you leave office. ...the sooner the better.

70 posted on 10/09/2007 7:38:51 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: processing please hold

I thought the U.S. didn’t recognise the international court due to the fact they could bring charges against our military at any time. This is one of the conservative things our CIC was supposed to have done. Am I wrong?


71 posted on 10/09/2007 7:40:52 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: texastoo
These are set up to be two courts.

The ICC, began in '95, I believe, handles individual criminal matters.

And

The IJC, began in 1945. handles disputes, it's the Judicial body of the un.

Many are saying they are indeed one in the same. Legally speaking.

Does the un have a relationship with the ICC? Yes. Is the ICJ arm a Un function? Yes.

pdf, one page.

International Criminal Court and UN to sign Historic Agreement on Monday

The un is involved with both the ICC and the IJC. Both organizations seek to harm our constitutional protections and bill of rights.

72 posted on 10/09/2007 7:56:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I should have added the two courts can overlap.


73 posted on 10/09/2007 8:04:20 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: texastoo

bumping!


74 posted on 10/09/2007 8:12:10 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: uxbridge

I voted for this President twice. And now, as a Father of 2 girls, I can honestly say I hate and despise him.

From illegal immigration, to the border agents in jail and now this. I wish Bush and his whole family would just go away.


75 posted on 10/09/2007 8:18:50 PM PDT by Eddiehaskell7
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To: Star Traveler

I can’t believe this. This animal was convicted while Bush was governor and he was okay with it. Why go to bat for this horrible criminal now?


76 posted on 10/09/2007 8:22:41 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: uxbridge

Medellin fries, Bush cries.


77 posted on 10/09/2007 8:22:47 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Where were you when the world stopped turning...)
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To: texastoo
Remember what the "free traders" say-- tribunals? We don't have to listen to them or do anything they say. We can leave the treaty any time we want.
78 posted on 10/09/2007 9:27:40 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: uxbridge
Bush wants to halt the execution of Jose Ernesto Medellin

VIVA BOOSH


79 posted on 10/09/2007 9:33:19 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dennisw

“GWBush helps out this Mexican POS to skate on the death penalty. But has GW ever said anything about Border Agents Ramos and Compean. They must be bad Mexicans. Bush’s good Mexicans are the ones who invade America”

BINGO!


80 posted on 10/09/2007 11:06:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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